I'm currently in the market for a new board and I'm very interested in a 5 fin board that will work well for NJ conditions. I've heard that 5 fins tend to break easier due to less foam surrounding the fin boxes, has anyone heard of this? Also, does anyone have a 5 fin that they reccomend for our standard NJ conditions? I've been looking at some Channel Islands cause I have two and they're great boards, but I'm certainly not opposed to any other brand. Any suggestion would be appreciated! Thanks
i work in a shop & have (& had) many boards w/ the tri-quad option & have NEVER heard of this or experienced anything of the sort. as far as brands, the CI fred rubble is a great nj board. i know a lot of guys that are riding them & absolutely loving them in everything waist high to overhead. ...Lost's mini-driver would be another good choice. same basic idea as the fred rubble-short, stubby board that works in a wide range of conditions. i will also say that brian wynn made me a board recently that i've been riding pretty much exclusively this past month that's along the same lines as the aforementioned boards by CI & ...Lost w/ a round tail & tri-quad option, so you can go local as well (which is usually a great bet...i mean, the guy lives & surfs here all the time. he's gonna know what it's like here). when i get a free moment, i'll take some pics of it & post them here or in the quiver thread for you to check out.
@njsurfer42: Thanks, the fred rubble is actually the board I was looking at, it seem to be the board that is made for the widest variety of conditions. As far as local shapers go, I'd love to support a local shaper, I'm just not too familiar with who they are and who to go to. I recently bought a Bryan Wynn single fin but haven't gotten on it yet, so I am familiar with him. If you can post the pics here that would be great! @koki: The reason I want the five fin is for the option,Thanks!
yeah, i figured that...I wasn't sure from your original post if you realized that. Cool, bro. Good luck, hope you find what your looking for.
I say get it made local. Your probably stuck on the marketing and idea of al merrick being the best. If you can get past that you will end up with a better board.
Talk to him about materials selection... EPS/PU/epoxy/PE. Take your current board. Be honest about your skills and goals. There are a number of quad setups, each with a different feel. Ask about them. Remember a quad/thruster convertible is a compromise, but a good all-arounder or "one board quiver" type board. You'll learn a lot from playing with different fin setups and combinations.
Why do you say they are a compromise? Thats why I want a 5 fin, learn how I surf on different fin clusters
i have never heard of them being weaker but a friend of mine with 5 fin brackets has 2 of them that are broken in need of repair
LBCrew know's his sh!t. Not trying to put words in his mouth, but i think he is referring to fin placement. On a quad/thruster setup you are limited in fin placement. On a custom board, you could dial in what suits you best, meaning closeness of the fins to the rail, closeness of your back fins to your trailer fins, and so on. I'm def not as knowledgeable as LB, but from picking up tidbits of useful info from him on here, I'm betting this is what he is talking about. Hope this helps. LBCrew can def explain it better.
If you're looking for a fun board (and on the cheaper side), I just came across it on Craigslist: http://jerseyshore.craigslist.org/spo/3298472625.html I can't vouch for this board in the ad but I surfed a Lost Shark for a couple of years. Great board for NJ, worked in everything. If the board is in good shape, $350 is a great price and I'm sure you can talk the seller down a few bucks. Good luck either way.
I got a Proctor Monsta with a 5 fin set up. It was a little on the expensive side due to shipping the board from cali. It also took a few months to get it. But it is the sickest board I've ever had. And Todd was super cool through the process too. Him or his girl would keep me up to speed the whole time, sending pics and emails. It did take a while, but that made it so much better once it came. I felt like a 5 year old on Christmas morning when the UPS truck pulled up. I've had a ton of good boards over the years, but this is definitely. I've had sick sessions in waist slop and head high barrels. It's also my 1st 5 fin. I never liked the idea, but I have no issues with it.... Slater rides 5 fin set ups. If it works for him, it's good enough for me
there is a notion that you have to "split the difference" between the placement of the front fins on a quad or a thruster...i think the difference is that a straight quad's front fins are placed at 12" up from the tail & a thruster's are 11" (i could totally be wrong about the #'s), but when i was talking w/ brian wynn about ordering up my first tri-quad board, he said that it's not something to worry about & that it's not a big deal. i currently have 3 boards that are tri-quad set ups & while quads tend to take more fine-tuning of the fin combo, they're all set up as quads at the moment. 2 of them i've never even ridden as thrusters yet...they're so fun as quads i see no reason to mess w/ it. the wynn i mentioned earlier is going to be my honeymoon quiver next summer...just 1 6'3" for 10 days in costa rica. it'll handle anything i'm likely to come across down there, outside of the odd DOH+ day.
Lost Shark is a great board for jersey conditions, comes either in a swallow tail or a round tail, both with double wings. I have the round tail, board is smooth and loose, and absolutely flies with the quad set up
yea, 42... the rail fins are usually more forward on a straight up quad. The numbers vary according to board length/design, but in general, you're right... further forward on a straight quad. On a convertible, especially if the guy's coming off a thruster, most are set up as a thruster, and the rear quad fins are "fit in" to that config to give it a quad option. That's where the "compromise" comes in. But with today's removable fin systems opening up some amount of adjustability options (Probox, FCS Fusions...) it works fine. If you only have one board, and you have a bunch of different fins, you can switch it up according to conditions. But most guys (like me and you, apparently) find they like the board one way better than the other, and just stick with the way they like it best for good.
I have two five fin setups, 5'10 firewire Rapidfire and 5'6 rusty DWART, both great boards and i regularly switch from a quad to thruster depending on the surf, never had either fin box break yet. The dwart is such a great all around board. Ride in knee high mush and taken it 2x to nica with overhead hollow swells; def a board you should check out.
Never heard of the fin blocks being weaker. If you want a choice of a few other boards that work well in Jersey, I would suggest the Haydenshapes Shred Sled. I just purchased one and I love it! Also, look at the Aloha Bean, 7S Cog, and check out Island Style in Sea Bright. Tommy is about the most experienced shaper in the area.
5 fin convertables are great but like LBcrew said it's a compromise. You lose a lot of pivot on the quad placement when that front fin is back at 11" as a thruster is set up. 1" is a huge number when messing with fin placements. I learned this first hand by riding ProBox Fin Systems which gives you 1/2" adjustability and it changes the board dynamics significantly. Most knowledgeable guys I talk to prefer a quad in chest high and below waves and a tri fin in head+... not an absolute rule but a lot of surfer's preference. ~Brian www.greenlightsurfsupply.com Shape Your Surfing Experience