Immunizations and Nicaragua

Discussion in 'Global Surf Talk' started by Masterjasson, Nov 14, 2012.

  1. Masterjasson

    Masterjasson Well-Known Member

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    Mar 8, 2010
    I've got a trip planned for the winter, and I was talking with my Doc, and she suggested a Hep A vac, along with malaria pills, and typhoid vac. You guys bother with this stuff?
     
  2. leethestud

    leethestud Well-Known Member

    Aug 12, 2010
    There is some nasty **** out there. Take the suggestions seriously. On top of the vaccines, stay away from the following:

    -Rivermouths after a rain. There is no EPA down there so the waste basically goes from the toilet to the lineup

    -any food that has to be cooked. I ate some chicken on a stick from a street cart in managua once and I think I still feel sick from it. Stick to fruits and veggies, or a REALLY trusted restaurant.

    -Snakes, man, take 'em seriously. Some of the most deadly snakes in the world (see fur de lance) call the arid regions of southwest nica and northwest costa rica home. Always carry a flash light at night.

    -Scorpions.. take em seriously too, man. They like to hang out under beds, in shoes, in showers, etc. I once took a shower with a couple big red ones, didn't realize it until I was drying off. Nearly had a heart attack. Get stung by one of those and no surfey surfey for days.

    -water, even ice in the bar drinks. Some areas in or near the mountains have great water, some areas pull straight from the rivers

    -watch your back. In general, the public is very friendly. Don't forget about that civil war, it is over but corruption and drugs and violence are out there floating around. IF you go out looking for trouble, you WILL find it. Bring cash to pay off the corrupt cops. Many are nice and helpful, many just want your gringo bucks.

    Pura vida, enjoy the trip
     
    Last edited: Nov 14, 2012

  3. Masterjasson

    Masterjasson Well-Known Member

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    Mar 8, 2010
  4. gnurider7

    gnurider7 Well-Known Member

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    Sep 1, 2010
    malaria isnt a problem. maybe get the others if you do or plan on doing alot of travel off the beaten track. the Hep A vaccination, i believe, is a series of 2 shots. the first one covers you for a year then get the 2nd one and ur good for life. not sure about typhoid.
    You wont have to worry about rain with the rivermouths since your going during the dry season. that did happen to me once in El Salvador tho. i was in La Libertad, its a pretty big town/city and the first big rain came, it was a miserable 3 days of puke out my ass.
     
  5. RID

    RID Well-Known Member

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    Feb 1, 2011
    The scorpions are not the most dangerous bugs in Nicaragua its the centipedes you have to look out for. When I was there a friend of mine was stung by a small black scorpion that was in his shorts. The remedy, drink three cups of strong coffee and swim for a while to get his heart pumping.

    That being said shake everything out before you put it on.
     
  6. rustysrfr

    rustysrfr Well-Known Member

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    May 29, 2007
    went to Nica this past Sept. and it was AWESOME!! They had a particularly dry rainy season, i believe that had drought conditions throughout most of the country.

    Got the first of the Hep A boosters before I left, second one coming up in a month or so and yes it is lifetime inoculation. Also, got the typhoid fever vaccine, found in tropical regions. And re-upped on my tetanus, i would double check when you got that last...if you got it within 10 yrs you should be fine.

    Would recommend the malaria pills too, there are a very companies and kinds. I did the pill that you take once a week for like 6 wks (depending on length of stay), make sure to look at the other ones tho. one side effect of the RX i had was vivid/realistic dreams....kinda creepy and might have had one or two dreams that were a little out there. the mosquitoes that carry malaria are nocturnal, so if you are all sealed up at night or have mosquito netting you should be fine. They have also had reports of dengue fever which is also transmitted by mosquitoes but they are active during the day. When I went they did not have anything for this so make sure you bring plenty of bug spray....just be smart and take the right precautions.

    The total cost for my three vaccinations and malaria pills was just under 400 bones.....alot up front but hep A is lifetime, tetanus is for another 10 yrs, typhoid only 2 years but rather be safe than sorry. Some of the costs were covered by my insurance, still waiting for reimbursement but I would talk to them before you go. Some companies that offer vaccinations could be out of your "network" of insurance, so they would not be covered. Most times your primary care physician doesnt have these vaccines on hand so they might refer you out and then it is covered under insurance, most times.

    hope this helps!! Have fun, got great waves everyday I was there!
     
  7. rustysrfr

    rustysrfr Well-Known Member

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    May 29, 2007
    OH SH!T....literally, ask for a diarrhea kit...Cipro - to kill everything and a pro-biotic to regrow good bacteria quickly!! If you feel the least bit queasy you can start taking it, rather than waiting to spend a day on the toilet.....other than that, the rum tends to sneak up on you.....nicaragua is the worst place in the world to wake up hungover, esp when its firing!
     
  8. Masterjasson

    Masterjasson Well-Known Member

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    Mar 8, 2010
    Just got off the phone with the doc. The hep A is 1 shot, and you're good for life. (The hep B is a 2 series shot, thinking I'll pass on that though) All in all it's costing me a little over a bill so it's a no brainer.
    The typhoid is available in pill form. Definitely taking a sh#t kit! I had Montazuma's revenge from Cabo in 2004, and it made me want to taste a gun barrel. That fur de lance just looks nasty.
    Thanks y'all.
     
  9. Slashdog

    Slashdog Well-Known Member

    May 22, 2012
    Master, I would advise against skipping the Hep-B. Hep-B transmission is not entirely understood, and though Nica is an amazing place, the infrastructure reminds me of my worst childhood forts.

    When I went I got both Hep vaccines and typhoid. The malaria pills are unnecessary unless you are planning on spending a ton of time in the jungle. They are not good for you, and when you get down there you'll find that most foreigners and Nica's with 'good' medical access do not bother. Get the Tetanus booster if you have the cash, I saw a snooty Israeli girl get attacked by a dog (hilarious) and she had to get one afterwards.

    Buy the Ciproflaxin (anitibiotic to help stem the flow from your ass), and Diazepam (Valium) if you want, when in Nica. No prescription necessary and it's cheaper.

    Though Lee's advise is spot-on, I ate and drank nearly everything when down there (and yes I payed the price). Still can't help but recommend the Carne Asada from the street vendors behind the cathedral in Leon, if you make it up North.....
     
  10. chicharronne

    chicharronne Well-Known Member

    Jun 22, 2006
    Dengue is the skeeter disease one should worry about. I've never inoculated myself for my annual pilgrimage. But It was always before the rains. My wife got stung in the arm between 2 veins by un alacran. Guarao is the remedy I used. I hear from a guy who laid in a bed of scorpions that YooHoo chocolate drink is the anti venom.
     
  11. im way better than you

    im way better than you Well-Known Member

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    Jul 10, 2008
    Just got back from NICA. The Malaria Pills are the worst. Nightmares, headaches, blurred vision. If you skip anything that would be my choice, but then again Malaria might be worse.
     
  12. Koki Barrels

    Koki Barrels Well-Known Member

    Aug 14, 2008
  13. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    Doesn't seem worth it to me, why not just go to PR and skip all the dumb stuff? The choice seems simple.
     
  14. Cisco the Kid

    Cisco the Kid Member

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    Jun 1, 2011
    I was down in Nica less than a year ago and didn't do any doctor prep work. no pills, no shots, no nothing. And I live to tell about... nothing. If you go during the dry season (winter) there won't be the water and moisture that breed disease so that should ease some fears. Just be a smart traveler and be prepared to bribe and/or play dumb with police if you're driving. White people = money. The way people are talking about all the possible problems you should probably also prepare for the end of the world, in case that happens when you're in Nicaragua. Good luck and enjoy the waves. You'll need a 1mm top in the south and boardshorts in the north. The South is overrated in the dry season or at least was pond like last January.
     
  15. Thee Fartmeister

    Thee Fartmeister Member

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    Oct 10, 2012
    I would pass on malaria pills, I've never done them but use bug spray and a mosquito net and have been fine. The water is so jacked that I got really sick after drinking beers that had been resting in it so be weary. Be sure to shake out clothes and shoes, best to leave clothes turned inside out to be thorough. I got bit by scorpions twice down there and one of them turned out to be a bummer. Bring a first aid kit with stretchy coban bandages that help give good pressure on deep cuts, you may need it and you may be able to help other surfers! In some areas clinics and hospitals can be quite a hike.
     
  16. JTS

    JTS Well-Known Member

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    Feb 21, 2010
    I've been to Nica about 10 times over the last 6-7 years. Malaria is not an issue on the Pacific Coast (Tola & Rivas provinces) I got the Hep A and B vaccines to cover as a general precaution -not necessary but I felt it was a good idea. Definitely drink only bottled water , the guys are right on the cipro, knocks out the stomach bugs. Definitely bring bug spray. Be mindful of what you eat (cook it- boil it- peel it or forget it) Have fun an post some pics when you get back
    Jim
     
  17. yankee

    yankee Well-Known Member

    Sep 26, 2008
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    What I don't understand is VB juveniles posing as surf travel experts. As is the case here.

    Poseur, you are called.

    Any of this 'information' that you posted is available from any travel site or from many previous posters on swellinfo forums.

    Look....you're a young guy, full of piss & vinegar, Sandbridge is your world where your da-da taught you to surf. It's a small world & you demonstrate that with your vitriolic (look it up) defense of WRV's (lack of) client service.

    You get off on posting your opinions that specifically attack on other posters. Because you are....see the above.

    Now, some may rush to your defense, whatever.
    Some may say that you're trying to provide helpful travel info, whatever.

    But you & I both know that you just don't get outta town that often.
    You're an authority on very little; perhaps the beer selection at the 7-11 on 40th Street?

    You 'shred' Sandbridge, in your own opinion; yet others have seen you surf & have called you out on your arrogance.

    And that's the thing that I have a problem with: your arrogance.

    You're the guy that shiiiites on others for no reason other than self-gratification.
    You're the guy that has the gear & flaunts it with the sense that gear makes you somebody.
    You're the guy that snakes anyone & everyone & then bellows about being a local.
    You're the guy who lives for this forum & can not handle it when you get criticized for your attitude.

    You're a little boy who has yet to grow up and you're an engineer by training & expense.
    Go build something; instead of tearing down.
     
  18. mbritta

    mbritta Member

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    Jul 20, 2012
    Lee's right about the rivermouths. We were in the water after a rain last year and got out after about 5 minutes because you could just see/feel the water and how dirty it was. Had great experiences at Popoyo and Buena Onda. We rented our own SUV the first time and drove at night which they say is a pretty stupid idea. No problems, but looking back probably not smart. The only time we ran into a cop was on the drive back from San Juan Del Sur and I think we had to pay the man holding a machine gun 5 American dollars to let us pass. the locals we ran into were very friendly. Our truck got stuck once and an entire family with woman and children hopped out to push us out. Luckily I had a few dollars on me at all times for situations like that. I wouldnt touch the food in Managua, but that's just me. bottled water is a must.
     
  19. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    Ouch, tell him how you really feel!
     
  20. aka pumpmaster

    aka pumpmaster Well-Known Member

    Apr 30, 2008
    Yankee

    I agree with a lot of what you write on here and the same with Lee. Why don't you guys agree to meet somewhere and settle your differences LIKE MEN instead of sniping on here?