So last week i was doing my monmouth county beach tour....i was def overhead and looked kinda fun but heavy paddles....most guys spent more time on the inside than outside.....everywhere looked a little wonky ...started in squan (shoulda just stayed(a lesson i've already learned))....checked sp...looked good but too much water...blah blah....mb looked pretty legit but it was completely empty i have 2 kids now and wasn't super keen about solo surfing overhead detonators mid winter.....i was pretty tempted but said ...hey let me go check the hook yes i'm aware no cars were allowed in....i figured park at gators, suit up, and start walking till someone tells me not too......i passed the park ranger on the beach...nothing...im thinking **** yeah im in.....made it all the way to the cove...prob a mile or so....empty 3 to 4 perfect peelers.....yes...**** yeah....too good to be true...... It was...whoop whoop whoop here they come now sirens blazing two trucks....these dudes were pissed..... They asked how i got there...told them i walked right past them they asked if i saw the beach closed sign...i said yes the beach is always closed all winter but they allow surfing so wtf they asked if i wanted a ticket....i said no i asked for what...the said trespassing on federal property i asked why they didnt stop my near sea bright ...they said they didnt see me....i told them they weren't doing there job very well then i ?d if i paddled in or kayaked in and never touched sand would that be ok....they said no vessel is allowed within 500 ft of the beach...i said show me that is writing they got more pissed....i ?d if anyone can really govern the area below the high tide water mark since i literally walked in the water the whole way.....no repsonse they advised a ticket would not be issued if i left immediately and i was lucky to not get one.....i was getting the hint but still i really sick of this **** they said the park would re open may 1st and i could surf then....they then had a 5 minute discussion if they could give me a lift back to seabright....they said my board would not fit.....i told them they drive an expedition and there was 2 trucks....they told me to be quiet...i told them i was just gonna hike it back out myself....then they insisted i get in there car....i explained i have wet stinky booties on and brazilian surf wax which isnt the easiest thing to remove from vehicle leather........plus wasnt too stoked on watching 5 dudes try to decide if giving me a ride was even an option......there is no way im getting in the back of a cop car unless im arrested nawmean i did ly to them though...i told em i walked in last week no prob...they said good for you sometimes they don't catch ya but if they catch ya twice def gettn a ticket so prob not a good idea to try it again but if you haven't gotten your warning yet maybe give it a go went back to squan...it was good...never leave good waves i played the jersey beach access game and lost ...in ****ing february...pathetic...next time using the kayak...parking offshore and they can paddle out if they want to have a discussion...see ya out there
You should write a Screeching Weasel/Propagandhi style punk rock song about it. 1 minute or less long. I'll play drums.
That ticket would be a Federal trespassing charge. That's not one you want to collect, Federal Judges have very little sense of humor about that sort of thing.
I was on the sea wall at Gators the other day gazing up to hook wondering if the cove was accessible and if anyone was on it. Completely empty clean Cove is a dream. That Thursday swell was probably PERFECT for it...I contemplated doing the same thing. Good on ya man, shame you got shut down before you hit the water.
Gaiters to the Cover is a good mile and a half at least. That's a long walk. How did they get up there if the roads are closed? I heard the roads are completely gone, washed away..Was it breaking good? Like the old days where there is actually a point? It was messed up for a long time after sand replenishment.
Last time I surfed there, not long before Sandy, it wasn't at all what it used to be. Still a good wave, but a shadow of it's former self. All the replenished sand from beaches south has found it's way into the cove, and changed it... possible forever. As long as they keep pumping to the south, migration to the north is inevitable. Look at the tip of the Hook, right at the rip, for the ultimate result of 18 years of pumping. The roads are pretty much still in tact... the bike path is gone in places, and many of the structures are gone or damaged. May 1 we'll all see for sure... that's in about 54 days.
Did they really ask if you wanted a ticket? I hate when cops ask those rhetorical questions, like it's going to add inches to their ****s. Off the wall, but my buddy and I were cruising through the Baltimore-Washington National Parkway a few years ago and we got pulled over by a park ranger. The ranger told us we were speeding and that we can be ticketed for speeding - gee, really? He then asked if we wanted a ticket. My friend said "you can't give us a ticket, you're just a park ranger." Moral of the story, park rangers can give speeding tickets.
And if this link is true, this is just the beginning..."Constitution Free Zones" are here, thanks to Homeland Security"...making us all safe, from, well, something.. government is a cancer: http://www.economicpolicyjournal.com/2013/02/homeland-security-creates-constitution.html
sandy hook is a federal park.trust me,u dont want to be on their badside.those pesky rangers can be a real nuiscance.iv been going to sandy hook for a long time.i go to beach g(im sure some of u know what im talkin bout),u can drink alcohol,aslong as u dont have glass.i got pulled over one day in the parking lot for tinted windows,2 guys hopp out with bulletproof vests and m16s,im thinkin wtf is this?!!those coppers go extra hard.i used to bring a few spliffs with me to the beach,i like to smoke before and after i go for a swim,surf,watever,i usually stand by the water,so when they roll up i just drop it in the sea,which happened a lot.best thing i can say is stay in the water,hopefully your near the sea bright side,so just paddle back to sea bright and they leave u alone.but if your near the north end,your pretty fukd.i seen them hasselin father son combos fishing,checkin for liscenses.they are as$holes indeed
Thanks for the info Tropic Surfer. It's time to rise up. These people employed by these agencies work for us no? Since we employ them, we can fire them and dismantle these pointless agencies. Why do they think they know best and can tell us what we can and can't do? Seriously.
Holy crap are you saying Sandy Hook is now closed for the winter? For all you young guys who are being indoctrinated into accepting this infringement and accepting it as the new normal, it wasn't always like this. When I was a kid we would drive onto Sandy Hook at night as a storm approached and shine our headlights on the water up at the cove to see what was happening, the ranger would come by and tell us to be careful. We would stay out and surf on moonlit nights, and would park in the highlands when the bridge was closed and the road washed out and walk across to surf, the cops would just wave to us. It could still be like this if you stood up and refused to vote for the nanny state. Choose to be a free person with the chance that you will end up with nothing over a kept animal who has your fair share provided for you in your little cage.
I am convinced that the Rangers are keeping the cove all to themselves...like a little underground movement of surfers who have locked the Hook down from the general public and they just have a spot for every swell. First rule about the hook...stay the F off the hook.
Not really sure why everyone is so suprised about these rangers being a-holes. I don't know if I have ever read a thread on here about some nice ranger who brought you a sandwich because you had the munchies after he rolled your spliff for you and then waxed your board and told you have a great day. Not all of the them have a stick up their a$$. I have met some pretty cool rangers, but then again, I have met my share of a-holes. Boogy, I mean what did you expect when you walk past the "beach closed" sign and you also don't see ANYONE else out. Just sayin Zippy, yeah, things have changed, I remember asking the State park entrance guard in DE if I could just go check the surf to see if it was worth paying and staying, no problem. Now a days, NO WAY would that fly!!
The hook has been closed and for many reasons, one of the big ones is un-exploded munitions. The hook use to be a weapons base and yes they have found bombs or shells on the beach since the hurricane. Don't want the ranger to be a ****, then dont be an ass to them. i grew up surfing the hook and honestly i havn't had many issues with the rangers that wern't justified. the hook is not closed for the winters, it took a lot of damage from the storm and those guys and countl;ess other rangers are working their butts off to get that park reopened. cut them some slack and accept that the coast line was devastated, move on. want to do something about it there are volunteers there every sat, and have been.. go there and help out and stop b!tching
Well the unexploded munitions thing has been happening for as long as I remember. We even found several after major storms back in the late 70s early 80s. We reported them to the rangers who thanked us, fenced off the area and paid no mind to us going back into the water as long as we were a safe distance away. They never shut the whole place even though back then the munitions weren't buried under 20 feet of fill sand. I wasn't aware that the roads up there were devastated and that is a good enough explanation to me for a closure if that's the reason for it. The only issue I ever had was at the beginning of what I consider the modern era of the hook. There was a far off storm brewing way south and a swimmer or 2 had drown in south jersey. The national park system chose to close all the parks to any water activity without any local input. It's true that there was some heavy surf in the southern counties but sandy hook was no more than waist high and we were being threatened with arrest if we went in the water. The reason given was that it was too dangerous.
Erock i will be ben weasel....for real think "supermarket fantasy" meets "everynight"....maybe minute in a half....gonna be classic just need a hook ok turned into interesting thread....some questions to answer though.... Yes i pretty much knew beforehand i was gonna get busted but when i walked past them and they didnt flinch i figured i was golden......i mean for real its just me walking up the beach w a bright yellow stretch....i woulda bailed early if they stopped me... And yes the hook is closed to none essential vehicles...there is a road leading all the way to barracks....but like any beach in winter there are signs saying "beach closed" and we pass them daily so the sign wasnt really detering me.....there is a sign at the 2nd lot that says beach closed too but you guys disreg it all the time i mighta killed half an l of diesel on the sea bright side so a confrontation i was not looking for...the shoreline technique is pretty tight and def better than the parking lot technique especially at the hook i been kicked outta "army" beach squan but dudes were super cool.....sternly spoken too at the jetty north of poverty aka "army" beach....lectured on mosquito trail trestles in ww.......done some kayaking into forsythe trailing a quad....im down to play the game.....you know those days...you go w essentials...trunks/wetty, board, bottle of water, wax, no id...park legal and hike .......i usually win but that day i lost i know i shoulda stayed in squan....pics to follow....but it was pretty big....all my buddies bailed...i was solo and kinda looking for a friend...couldn't find one...figured i'd try an adventure....i'm not mad i did feel a little guilty for pushing my luck when i know these guys are "doing their job" and trying to get the park re open but how bout homeboy i walked past near the entrance who claimed he didn't see me....was he sleeping or straight lying? Can't figure that one out....i asked and they said they didnt see me....thats why i was cordial but kinda wise....cause i figured they let me take the walk only to snag me at the prize....like ultimate screw u nawmean again the surf def pretty good but after walking over a mile and seeing it empty it looked like jbay....but really it was a good semi clean sectiony waist/chest day that i simply would have chose over solo overhead winter detonators ...my soul aches i wasn't such a ***** and maybe in a little better shape but my 4 yr old son and 2 year old girl weigh pretty heavy on the heart....mofos gotta eat ...