A roy stewart inspired longboard

Discussion in 'Surfboards and Surfboard Design' started by Steve83, Apr 18, 2013.

  1. Steve83

    Steve83 Well-Known Member

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    Apr 17, 2013
    The conversations generated by this thread has left me wondering what the world would pay for a surfboard like this. If this board was for sale at your local surf shop what would you feel comfortable paying?
    Note that custom wood surfboards range from in excess of a million dollars to a few thousand. What price wouldn't give the surfing world heartburn?
     
  2. brewengineer

    brewengineer Well-Known Member

    Jun 22, 2011
    From what I have seen, wooden boards range from $1500 to $10000, depending on the builder, materials, and size. I don't count RS boards, cause his prices are moronic. If you sold the board you built for $5k at a local shop, I can see someone buying it. However, it would have to ride well where the owner surfs. It will be interesting to see how yours does in SC swell. We don't get long duration clean waves like the Kiwis. Personally, I would love to own a classic LB design wooden board (in the 10' range). I know that would probably work well down on IOP.
     

  3. Koki Barrels

    Koki Barrels Well-Known Member

    Aug 14, 2008
    talk to a local shaper and find out how much they make an hour, I'm willing to bet it's not $25. Once your price exceeds, say $1200 for a surfboard, your market diminishes greatly.
     
  4. brewengineer

    brewengineer Well-Known Member

    Jun 22, 2011
    Especially in SC. Maybe the market would be larger in CA or HI.
     
  5. Steve83

    Steve83 Well-Known Member

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    Apr 17, 2013
    1200 minus 700 for materials leaves me 500 dollars to cover my 160 hours of labor. That would mean I make custom wood Roy Stewart inspired longboards at a rate of $3.12 per hour.
     
  6. scotty

    scotty Well-Known Member

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    Aug 26, 2008
    Depends:

    How many like boards have you built that have proven to hold up under use?
    How many positive testimonials from experienced wooden board riders for that shape?

    If the answer to either or both is "not many" then i'd admire the incredible amount of craftsmanship that went into it, and keep walking. But there is probably a different market out there for beautifully crafted wooden boards of unproven performance.
     
  7. brewengineer

    brewengineer Well-Known Member

    Jun 22, 2011
    He isn't telling you to sell at 1200. He is stating the market is small above 1200, which is true. That doesn't mean you should screw yourself over.
     
  8. Steve83

    Steve83 Well-Known Member

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    Apr 17, 2013
    There are some valid points made here. Price is a tricky thing to place on an object. I am an licensed mechanic by trade and in college I have studied advanced composites. I have studied woodworking the last several years and I have made several wood boards. I've made alaias, hollow wooden stringer, and torsion box surfboards. If I would sell a surfboard it would be most likely online were they regularly fetch 3000 to 6000 on any given day. 1200 is a fair price for a foam longboard. Custom wood surfboards fetch more. I wouldn't set my labor rate at what a foam shaper at the local surf shop charges unless I was making foam boards.
     
  9. Koki Barrels

    Koki Barrels Well-Known Member

    Aug 14, 2008
    I never suggested selling your board for $1200, i did however point out that the market for said board would be dramatically smaller for prices above that.

    The real problem is, noone knows you as a shaper or even a surfer. And you've only built a couple boards. Most people who drop that kind of money for a surfboard are going to go with name recognition also. Basically, what I'm saying is, you can't build 3 boards and think you can call yourself a shaper. And in no way am I taking anything away from the board you built, it looks beautiful. Just going to be really difficult to find that small percentage of people who are willing to pay $6,000 for a surfboard built by: some guy.

    Perfect example: your boy Roy.
     
  10. Roy Stuart

    Roy Stuart Well-Known Member

    Jan 27, 2013
    MF Global stole money from customer accounts FFS.

    Suggesting that I would do that is libelous.

    What I'm doing is offering expensive surfboards for sale, whoever buys them makes a conscious decision to do so, without coercion.

    If a person has far more money than they will ever need and enjoys spending huge amounts on unique items, then that is their business... and it happens all the time.

    Your attitude shows poverty of spirit, in my opinion.... if one is going to dream, dream big!

    ... yes and I do know many things which the rest of you haven't figured out.
     
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  11. Roy Stuart

    Roy Stuart Well-Known Member

    Jan 27, 2013
    Lol, I've been making boards since 1970 and using the parallel profile method which I invented since 1994... I'm also well known as a surfboard maker and surfer all over the world.

    The bottom and middle of the market is shrinking, only the extreme top end is growing and thriving. It's the place to be, in my opinion.

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  12. Roy Stuart

    Roy Stuart Well-Known Member

    Jan 27, 2013
    Quite so.

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  13. Steve83

    Steve83 Well-Known Member

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    Apr 17, 2013
    My name carries no fame. However I am a wood surfboard builder. I have been doing it for years. I cannot claim I've made a hundred surfboards but I don't need to have a certain number of completed builds to call myself a shaper. I have nearly 100 pictures documenting the build process. The complexity of building a surfboard of this design is more complicated than shaping a foam board. There are numerous more steps involved.

    So after building a surfboard like this I can't hold the title of shaper? Ha Ha Ha Ha
    Ask your standard shaper to build you one of these.
     

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  14. MFitz73

    MFitz73 Well-Known Member

    Aug 21, 2010
    Yeah but Roy you are not going to sell any surfboards, which makes your dream just that.... A dream. A day dream at best. Can u give us an idea of how many boards you've sold? Zero? Less than zero?
     
  15. chicharronne

    chicharronne Well-Known Member

    Jun 22, 2006
    Steve83, that's purdy. I'd be askeert to get that wet.
     
  16. yankee

    yankee Well-Known Member

    Sep 26, 2008
    Don't worry - - it doesn't stay in, or on, the water for very long.
     
  17. Steve83

    Steve83 Well-Known Member

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    Apr 17, 2013
    The subject of pricing and selling the board could be argued indefinitely. I personally don't think $6000 is is an unrealistic number. Again they regularly go for that price online. However I have not decided to sell the board at all. I'm perfectly content surfing it.

    I built this surfboard because I am in love with the craft of building and I am in love with the sport of surfing.
     
    Last edited: Apr 21, 2013
  18. Steve83

    Steve83 Well-Known Member

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    Apr 17, 2013
    Sanding the board is complete. The finish coat has been applied to the deck. Tomarrow the finish coat will be applied to the bottom. After that I plan to give the board at least four days to cure.

    The build will be complete and ocean ready in 1 week.
     
  19. chicharronne

    chicharronne Well-Known Member

    Jun 22, 2006
    what's that mean?
     
  20. nynj

    nynj Well-Known Member

    Jul 27, 2012
    Only thing "unique" abour your "item" is you made it.... Making you the $$$$ part of it. Good luck