Does anyone sometimes think New Jersey is overrated?

Discussion in 'All Discussions' started by RIsurfer, Apr 22, 2013.

  1. Paddington Jetty Bear

    Paddington Jetty Bear Well-Known Member

    Apr 23, 2013
    Dude, first you go on about summer days of SW wind chop. Then you act like the majority of our swells are long period ground swells. Dude, this is the east coast. Home of the short period wind swell. 97% of our waves are created by local weather systems.

    Dude, I'm not surfing an island 175 miles off the Atlantic coast. I'm in New Jersey, where local winds effect the surf.

    We all ride "chop" it's just a matter or how groomed that "chop" is......
     
  2. longboardjohnny

    longboardjohnny Member

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    Apr 23, 2013
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    This is how we roll in Jersey!
     

  3. shark-hunter

    shark-hunter Well-Known Member

    Apr 29, 2012
    A short period rideable windswell is not chop. It's a swell. They start becoming rideable around 7 seconds. These waves are generated over 100 miles away. If their generated within a few miles of shore it's 3 second disorganized junk. Long period ground swells can come from a 1000 miles away.

    LMAO...I give up :)
     
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  4. Paddington Jetty Bear

    Paddington Jetty Bear Well-Known Member

    Apr 23, 2013
    I don't know what you are laughing at, but, ok, dude. You have NO idea about the creation of them waves.

    waves come from wind, right? ahhhh go read up on it and learn it on your own.

    Man, if somebody told me I'd be arguing on the internet some day about Rhode Island being more consistent than NJ I would have said they were crazy.........
     
  5. bennysgohome

    bennysgohome Well-Known Member

    Nov 13, 2009
    Dude look at a map from Cape May to Sandy Hook. The whole state of NJ. As he says, look at how exposed NJ is to the atlantic compared to RI. NJ gets almost every swell. The coastline faces NE, E in the north, S and SE in the south.
     
  6. seldom seen

    seldom seen Well-Known Member

    Aug 21, 2012
    This has clearly digressed and now a matter of proving a point.
     
  7. trevolution

    trevolution Well-Known Member

    Feb 16, 2012


    rhode islands cams are pretty bunk. I just think rhode island is ****ing epic because you have multiple breaks within a 20 minute drive, winter surfing is pretty raw, and when its on its a pretty amazing place to be.
     
  8. shark-hunter

    shark-hunter Well-Known Member

    Apr 29, 2012
    Yes, but the wind is blowing over 100 miles offshore that creates the rideable waves. It takes over a hundred miles for swell train to get organized and create rideable waves in the 7 second period. That's what I'm laughing at. How you don't seem to get that.
     
  9. shark-hunter

    shark-hunter Well-Known Member

    Apr 29, 2012
  10. trevolution

    trevolution Well-Known Member

    Feb 16, 2012
    there both fun in different ways. I just caught some of the best waves of my life at tunic this winter tho so im RI biased.
     
  11. OC&SC-83

    OC&SC-83 Well-Known Member

    79
    Jul 25, 2011
    get over it man.
     
  12. shark-hunter

    shark-hunter Well-Known Member

    Apr 29, 2012
    The difference between RI and NJ is close. It's not like west coast vs east coast where there is no comparison. Yes Jersey is exposed, but so is RI. It's exposed to sw swell that jersey can't pick up. RI can't pick up northeast swell. RI can handle multiple wind directions as far as offshore winds are concerned and can handle ground swell better so RI is the winner.

    OBX is most exposed on the ec
     
  13. brek

    brek Well-Known Member

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    Jun 17, 2008
    I think you must be getting trolled....

    Maybe this helps:

    Here is a swell map from January (remember that long flat spell in january?)

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    This is a SW swell. You can see that it is filling in quite nicely up in Rhode Island, and might think that NJ is getting waves from this swell, but it is not. The swell is moving away from land and you usually don't ride waves that are going out to sea. I know it's not the best site around, but MSW also has historical data so you can get an idea of what the corresponding surf height was supposed to be for this swell:

    Rhode Island
    4-6 ft

    New Jersey
    1 ft
     
  14. Sniffer

    Sniffer Well-Known Member

    Sep 20, 2010
    Isnt there going to be really good surf in the morning? Why is everyone here so mad....geesh.
     
  15. Paddington Jetty Bear

    Paddington Jetty Bear Well-Known Member

    Apr 23, 2013
    OK this is the last time........in very simple terms.

    The surf is flat in NJ. A low pressure system is coming across the country. It picks up gulf moisture and intensifies as it heads to the coast.

    The storm arrives. The winds start blowing 15-25 mph out of the NE. There will be waves in a matter of hours.

    Now you will say these aren't "waves" but "chop." No, these are waves from the same storm that you later call "swell" once it pushes 175 miles of the coast

    OK, the storm pushes off the coast and the winds switch NW. The waves clean up.

    In most cases when the storm gets "175 miles" off the coast.......it's getting smaller and relatively soon will be flat on the east coast........or small BS.

    Dude, the winds associated with storms create surf. Those dudes surfing New Zealand swells at Lowers are surfing "chop." It's groomed "chop."
     
  16. bennysgohome

    bennysgohome Well-Known Member

    Nov 13, 2009
    Does RI get E swells and N, and NE swells? I don't think so. Hurricane season is RI's time for dormant breaks to come alive. I also thought there were some large land masses to your south and south west.
     
  17. Paddington Jetty Bear

    Paddington Jetty Bear Well-Known Member

    Apr 23, 2013
    Trolled??

    Dude, you are using MSW as the basis for your argument. Need I say more? You are showing a map. That proves nothing. And lets say that that one particular day, Rhode Island had waves and Jersey didn't, does that prove that RI is more consistent?

    Again, it is very simple let's compare the daily surf from RI and NJ for the next month. Or is that unfair because this isn't a good time of year for SW swells?
     
  18. littlerhody

    littlerhody Well-Known Member

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    Jan 16, 2009
    poor jersey everyone always dumps on it. my mom was born in jersey. i still make fun of her for it
     
  19. Paddington Jetty Bear

    Paddington Jetty Bear Well-Known Member

    Apr 23, 2013
    I ain't mad at all. Can't speak for anybody else.

    Legendary surf video dude Kevin Welsh said........."Florida has the oranges but Jersey's got the juice." And Rhode Island can't even compare to Florida in consistency.

    And I don't have any Rhode Island prejudices.
     
  20. brek

    brek Well-Known Member

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    Jun 17, 2008

    I'm not trying to prove which is more consistent. I have no dog in this fight. Just saying NJ doesn't get SW swells and RI does. That's all.