suggestions

Discussion in 'Surfboards and Surfboard Design' started by supa76, May 26, 2013.

  1. supa76

    supa76 Active Member

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    Mar 25, 2013
    looking for some thought im about 5/11 190 to 200 lbs in good surfing shape currently riding a eps 6.5 18 5/8 2 1/2 the magic board for me in anything stomach high or better when its top to bottom. not hatn but i personaly hate lb ing just not my cup of tea been there tried it hated it to slow and sluggish. looking to get a grovel board for when im stuck invb in the mush bought like 5 different fishes and they always feel slughish and to on top of the wave and not through it and dont really seem to catch waves any better than what i got want something super high performance, paddling not really an issue i do plenty of it and it doesnt bother me. just need something fast and responsive
     
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  2. supa76

    supa76 Active Member

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    Mar 25, 2013
    anyone any ideas
     

  3. Koki Barrels

    Koki Barrels Well-Known Member

    Aug 14, 2008
    Firewire Sweet Potato....I'm about the same weight/height and picked up a 5'6". I ride it with the K2.1 quad setup.
     
  4. Zippy

    Zippy Well-Known Member

    Nov 16, 2007
    Im about your height and weight and have been riding bing dharmas in the 5'6" - 6'0" range. They are great boards for small mushy waves I actually have a 6'0" im gonna be selling in a few weeks. I have recently gotten into Firewires and I am really impressed by them. After hearing so much bashing of these boards I was hesitant but I was getting tired of seeing my friend on a Dominator catch twice the waves, I went and bought one and really love it. Not sure if it is the shape of the board or the EPS epoxy combination that I like but I am really into them now. I just ordered a timber tech Baked potato in a 5'9" for the summer mush. Im imagining it's gonna be great if it's anything like my Spitfire.
     
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  5. supa76

    supa76 Active Member

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    Mar 25, 2013
    cool thanks im almost at the point of giving up on it if its not stomach high and damnit i aint that old yeah ill check it out
     
  6. supa76

    supa76 Active Member

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    Mar 25, 2013
    cool thanks ill check it out
     
  7. Koki Barrels

    Koki Barrels Well-Known Member

    Aug 14, 2008
    nah, man...I'm telling you...the first time I took mine out was in 1-2' conditions, every other person in the water was on a longboard, caught a hella-ton of waves and had a blast.

    They are a little pricey, though and don't come with fins...
     
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  8. es-dot

    es-dot Well-Known Member

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    Jan 20, 2013
    yeah i have to say the sweet potato is fun its great in mush but held up in head high conditions . i would not call it a groveler but the hypto krypto is a fun board too i have ridden it in thigh high junk to over head .
     
  9. live4truth

    live4truth Well-Known Member

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    Feb 9, 2007
    Was recently introduced to Bing's short board line...both dharma and swea'pea would probably be something u may be interested in. I recently purchased the board below...grovels pretty well and is fun for the smaller days--i wouldn't say there are many boards that have an HP feel in the mush, but works well enough. its Called the "rude boy."

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  10. waterbaby

    waterbaby Well-Known Member

    Oct 1, 2012
    ^that's a hot little board

    anyway, supa76, I'm about the same height/weight as you and had some eps boards in the same size range as what you're riding...and they were all way too buoyant (one might say I shoulda learned my lesson after the first 2, but I was trying different constructions, rails, brands, etc). The over buoyancy makes duck diving difficult, makes the board try to track up the face of steeper waves and bounces the board around in anything close to bumpy conditions. Now, if you got those same dims in a poly board, it would work.

    Bottom line, you gotta go much shorter/thinner with eps...and you gotta get them hand shaped so you can ask for more glass to counterbalance the lightness of the foam. Poly is infinitely easier to get a well balanced board...and much cheaper
     
  11. Zippy

    Zippy Well-Known Member

    Nov 16, 2007
    I like that board! I had a Sweepea and really like it but felt like I needed a change (in a rut) and purged myself of all my bings. I would still highly recomend them, Matt Calvani makes some great alternative shapes.
     
  12. surfbum21

    surfbum21 Well-Known Member

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    Dec 31, 2011
    go to your local shaper. you'll get a board fine tuned towards your specific needs and the waves you get in your area.
     
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  13. supa76

    supa76 Active Member

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    Mar 25, 2013
    yeah i donno im on board for the eps now been riding piercesons for awhile now and pretty stoked with the customs it took like 5 years for the shapers to stop tryn to talk me into bigger boards but i think were finally on same page. but for me anyway, theyre just right now i donno if i could do much less float work sick when its firing but in the really small weak stuff its a struggle i go and see my boy at the local shop and hes baffled at how small what im riding is.so when i try to get direction on a small wave board he is reluctant to try and steer me anymore all that being said thanks for all the suggestions guys much appreciated
     
  14. supa76

    supa76 Active Member

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    Mar 25, 2013
    hey guys i checked out the sweet potato i donno not really sure about it looks kinda to rounded up front for me what about the dominator will that work in the knee to waisthigh range for a 200 lb guy
     
  15. RIer

    RIer Well-Known Member

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    Jul 29, 2012
    Any more info on the Bing rude boy above? Dims? Doesn't seem to be on their website. Wonder what niche this is supposed to fill. I have a dharma which is great, but I sometimes wish I could turn it a little harder. Was thinking a bing musket might be the answer, but this looks like an interesting alternative.
     
  16. live4truth

    live4truth Well-Known Member

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    Feb 9, 2007
    Yea supposedly Bing's updating their site...I'm about 5'11"x165lbs+-. Rude boy is 5'6"x20 1/4"x 2 1/2"--this one was OTR...got a good deal on it. Board is big for my size and different from what I'm used to...but fun in the small stuff. I find that you can really whip this thing around fairly easily...prefers to be ridden off the tail. If you have a dharma...I would say this would be right up your alley...
     
  17. RIsurfer

    RIsurfer Well-Known Member

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    Dec 5, 2012
    Definitely with koki barrells, firewire sweet potato.
     
  18. JTS

    JTS Well-Known Member

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    Feb 21, 2010
    To add more fuel to the fire, Brian Bulkley is back in Cal shaping. He makes amazing boards, he has several small wave models and he does excellent customs. Google his name to see his experience - used to ride quads @ Pipe in the 80's
    I have had 2 customs from him in the past -he is great to work with, (and excellent prices)
    Email and talk to him
    bulkleysurfboards@hotmail.com

    JTS
     
  19. Muchoaloha

    Muchoaloha Member

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    May 28, 2013
    I have been looking at Bing boards recently as well. The Dharma looks like a wave catching machine. Zippy was there are large difference between the Dharma and the Sweepea? What did you find were the major differences? Thanks!
     
  20. Zippy

    Zippy Well-Known Member

    Nov 16, 2007
    The Sweepea had a more arching turning radius than the Dharma. The dharma was really fast down the line but was relatively difficult to turn hard other than pivoting off of one of the square corners. I found that the dharma could loose some speed if you wanted to drop in and fade into a bottom turn to come verticle (which I like to do). These were all issues on smaller surf, bigger stronger surf, even rounder big waves were fine, maybe even great on the Dharma. The Sweepea seemed to keep its speed off of the bottom a bit better but was not as fast down the line without input from the rider. I rode the Dharma in El Salvador on some well over head waves and it was fun, I would have liked to have the Sweepea down there although I did try my little 5'6" Dharma on the first day in El Salvador in head high surf and it was almost impossible for me to catch a wave on it. Not sure why but it was tough and I ate it a few times on what would be considered huge waves around here, lol.
     
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