Sweet swell in VA Beach today, but who gets to experience it? - Only the sheep surfing the jetty and those fortunate enough to get out in the water before they shut it down. The sheepherders were on the loose enforcing arbitrary rules and cleaning out the ocean. I could see if the water was full of tourists and swimmers, but it wasn't. In fact, after the douche lifeguard kicked everyone out, the ocean was empty but for the 3 foot swell lolling itself onto the shore. In a world where we debate long boarders vs. short boarders and surfers vs. spongers, if there is anyone that sucks its all the lifeguards and other rule enforcing lame f@$cks. If it weren't for them blindly following stupid, society might have a chance to escape its downward decline into softness. We are creating a society of soft people who need to be protected by the most mundane things such as rain falling from the sky, tiny waves breaking on the beach, and gluten. Stop the insanity, and next time you see a lifeguard, show them the disrespect they deserve and show them your half-a-peace sign loud and proud because they suck just like cops and bureaucrats!
Dude I hate having to get out of the water too, but the lifegaurd was just doing his job. Seriously how old are you? "rule enforcing lame f$%^s" are you kidding me? They don't make the rules, they just enforce them because they have found a way to make money in this troubled economy, and are responsible for saving TONS of lives at our beaches. And by enforce them I'm not talking about cops who have discretion whether to give you a ticket or not. Lifegaurds MUST make you get out of the water. If a supervisor sees a surfer in the water, are you gona go over and help him keep his job? No of course not, because you care for no one but yourself. I hate when the lifegaurds are there. But I don't hate the lifegaurds. I might curse about having to get out of the water, but I wouldn't make it personal. They save lives, and many people NEED them there to feel safe in the water. You know what time you can surf and can't. Go to a beach that allows you to surf during lifegaurd hours, or better yet, go to one of the tons of beaches that are not yet open since Sandy. Show some respect.
I got a couple fun hours in this morning before the lifeguard called us out. I had a 10 minute conversation with him and he seemed like a cool enough guy just doing his job. He wasn't thrilled about making everyone come out during a fun swell himself. He actually kind of seemed to hate his job at the moment.
when i was a lifeguard, this was the single WORST part of the job...i hated doing it & would always wait until some higher-up came along & told me to clear the water. to the OP, i have 2 words: "dawn" + "patrol".
Don't take your anger out at the lifegaurds. Use your passion aboot this issue to try and change the laws. Man, you Virginia Beach guys live in a surf-related police state down there, huh? Ha, the authorities don't much like you guys, huh? Well at least you guys can feel like the anti-heroes surfers were supposed to be. Really, use you anger to open more summer surfing areas. Rally the troops. Contact organizations that care. Get involved in the crafty, behind-the-scenes, local Virginia Beach political arena. How aboot running for city council and getting all the shred hounds and local ocean people behind you? Oh hey yo, 757 Surfer how'd your "Surfing next to the pier" ticket go? Good lord there sure are alot of surfers in the Tidewater area, just ax the dudes in the outer banks. So unite and organize. Get things changed. Oh, what do you guys prefer: Tidewater or Hampton Roads. I don't know. I guess I like "Tidewater" if I'm shredding or hanging in a marsh, and Hampton Roads if I'm zanging in Bad News.
Respect for what? I was surfing an unguarded part of the beach. The guard was only rolling by on his four-wheeler on a part of the beach that's rarely patrolled. Though there are hours posted for the part of the beach I was at, to compound my grievance is the fact that this is first time I've ever seen the rules enforced on this particular section of beach. Things are usually pretty lax. What pisses me off is that there were no swimmers anywhere near any of the surfers who were chased out. There were even two SUP's, way outside, that got called in. None of us were even in each others way. It was uncrowded and chill. I understand, fully, the multi-use and safety issues, but somewhere, someone has to use half the brain they were given for something other than blind obedience. A touch of common sense would go a long way. Last summer I got blown out of the water for body surfing in water that was deeper than my knees. If swimmers are not allowed in deeper water and surfers aren't allowed in that water either, then, they've essentially declared the water to be too dangerous for anyone to be in it, except for when there are no guards. That's about as ass backwards as it gets. You can only go in the water when there are no lifeguards. Its a dumb, overly protective result of a nanny state mentality. I don't care how old I get to be, I will always think that automatons who are "just doing their job" are lame F@$ks because thats what they are, lame F@4ks with less than a brain and no cojones. "Soon we'll all be living under the booted foot of the lifeguard state."
I didn't take my anger out on the lifeguard. I calmly let him be, and as far as getting organized, up to now there's really been no need. Besides that, most of the VA Beachers everyone hates so much all crowd together around the jetty. Its only us chill souls that surf the North End. It was just culture shock for me. Usually I can go out, relax, and be left alone. This is a seriously lame third strike on the lifeguards, this summer alone. Two weeks ago the beach was closed because it was raining, not thunder and lightening, but just plain raining. So instead of going out in front of my house I drove 20 blocks and surfed where there were no guards. So what's the difference in safety from one place to the other? None! The only difference is some teenage kid with a hard-on for his new found authority and the absence of one.
Lifeguards in VB are a bunch of queers. A couple years ago out at Sandbridge a really bad rip pulled a bunch of kids of very quickly. They shouldn't even have been in the water at all. I saw them getting sucked out and paddled over and had all five hanging onto by longboard. I couldn't paddle them all back in so we sat out there for like three minutes, waiting for the lousy lifeguards to finally get out to us and help swim some of them back in. They thanked me then they had the nerve to tell me I had to come in. If it wasn't for me those kids would have drown.
Job security, ya don't need those dumbasses gettin a tan on the beach when there are better watermen in the thick of it.
That's exactly the type of B.S, I'm talking about. It makes no sense. They can't do the job that we can. We are actually a part of what makes the water safe. I've pulled in more people than I can count going back to my teens. Nice job saving those kids! Once again, though, screw the lifeguards!
I agree east coast lifeguards are a joke. Half are in high school not capable of saving themselves. Surfers are the first responders and watch out for each other. Its a joke 4 foot waves no one allowed in ocean. California and Hawaii those life guards are the real deal and deserve respect not the clowns that show up every summer.
dont know bout where you guys are but where I am on LBI, as much as I don't like getting kicked out by the lifeguards every morning still respect them since some of the top surfers in the area are lifeguards and they are just doing their job.
DP. And what the jetty bear mentioned: you want change? Take it up with the rule-makers aka your local pols.
Agreed. Taking it out on the lifeguards, ranting, whining, and being disrespectful won't accomplish a thing. If you want to effectively change something, take the emotion out of it. Get organized, stick with the facts, and offer practical solutions. Tidewater and Hampton Roads tend to be used by politicians and businesses to identify the region. Locals generally refer to the cities: VA Beach, Norfolk, Portsmouth, Suffolk, etc. VB residents refer to areas within VB: Kempsville, Great Neck, Bayside, Oceanfront, Sandbridge, etc.
It used to be referred to as Tidewater, then for some reason they started referring to it as Hampton Roads. Happened sometime when the area code changed to 757
If I were drowning, I feel like a VB lifeguard would whistle for me to come in instead of save my life. The only ones I've ran into were the chubby teenagers that seemed to abuse their authority and act like the man of the beach. Seriously, go back to watching kids in the pool.