looking for a stronger board, or suggestions on changing up the shape.

Heavier glass job or epoxy. IMO a little thicker in foam not going make much difference in strength.

 

haydenshapes hypto krypto or any other board with the future flex tech .super strong and lightweight and great flex.

 

Too much shredding brah.... I would be inclined to suggest a double stringer. In fact I just talked to a shredder up this way the other day on the beach - he way just getting out after getting barreled - I didn't paddle out cause the waves where too big- 23ft sets- he was telling about how much he bench presses-name is njshreddermachinee... You know him?? Jk

 

You can change the construction, or the shape, or both.

Aside from going with EPS/Epoxy (which I recommend) heavier glass will help, but make it heavier. Try to custom order warp glass or unidirectional glass for at least one layer on the deck, and S-glass for the other and the bottom. There will be a slight increase in cost for the S, but if it's strength you want, you'll need to make some investment. Other construction tweaks can be the use of a thicker stringer (or more stringers), carbon fiber, or added structural reinforcement in the rails... just added cloth strips, usually 6oz or heavier. But you can add some strength just by getting a good glass job, done right... like the right ratio of resin to fiber, and laying up the two deck layers (of standard E-glass) at angles across the stringer.

In terms of design, you can go thicker, and that will add some strength. If you do, you can go with a more domed deck to get the same volume, AND added strength, because domed decks add structural stiffness and resistance to buckling. You can say the same thing about rail channels, bottom channels, and other lengthwise contours... they all add snap resistance. Another option is to go shorter (wider doesn't add much snap resistance) to create a shorter lever, and make up for it by going thicker.

All these changes will have costs... in terms of money, and in terms of performance. So you gotta pick your poison.

 

That's easy, order a Coil.

 

^^^ This, not all epoxy boards are created equally

 

http://c.slum.se/

This site has updated pics of their boards. The only thing the boys at Coil suck at is updating their website.

 

The domed deck idea I like. You get good hi performance rails with extra volume for paddling speed, but it won't be all floaty and dig rail on a jacked up wave. A double thick stringer is a good idea too! Keep shredding bro!

 

might want to consider Hydroflex 3D. Get it glassed over standard poly foam so it doesn't interfere with weight balance or flex as much as EPS foam.

 

Flex is a good thing if done correctly.

 

The flex characteristics of most surfboard EPS and polyurethane foam are almost identical. It's what you do with the skins that changes the flex. Weight, however, will be very different... and that's where the difference in feel begins. A lighter core means you can glass it heavier for strength. Heavier glass means stiffer, all other factors held constant. So what do most board builders do to get some flex back? Go thinner. That's where the, "EPS is more buyoant, so you can go thinner" thing came from. It's not because the EPS/epoxy board "has more buoyancy." It's because if you want to get the same feel out of a heavily glassed board, the easiest thing to do that costs no money is take an eighth off the thickness. People misinterpreted that as EPS having more buoyancy, but if you paid attention in high school, you learned that buoyancy is a function of volume, not material.

 

Aviso carbon fiber boards

 

are you saying eps/epoxy boards only feel more bouyant because of less glass?...I don't believe it.

granted, the difference between current poly foam and eps are relatively small...but the difference between the old clark foam and eps was fairly extreme.

 

Saw one snapped on a waist high day at the Hook a few years ago. I wouldn't adviso it.

 

Ya they sure look cool- and they are light and super bouyant.. but I would agree, not sure about the strength. One of my buddies had one and it didnt last too long... before i knew it- it was gone...

 

No... I'm saying EPS/epoxy boards feel more buoyant because of their reduced weight, if glassed the same as a PU/PE. But if you glass them heavier, so they come out equal in both weight and volume as an identical PU/PE, they will have no added float or buoyancy. They'll just be stiff as a board... but really tough.

There's still a drastic difference between today's PU and today's EPS, if you're comparing apples to apples; in other words, standard density PU ("blue" density) and standard density EPS ("2lb. EPS). The EPS will be a fraction of the weight of the PU, but with almost identical flex characteristics, unglassed and with the same stringer.