Building the 6'6" Gang Buster. Roy Stuarts Parallel Profile construction method.

Discussion in 'Surfboards and Surfboard Design' started by Cuck Taylor, Jul 7, 2013.

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  1. Jul 11, 2013 #21
    ClemsonSurf

    ClemsonSurf Well-Known Member

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    So there are 4 guys I know on SI that make wooden surfboards. You and I, this new guy Charles and RS. I'm not quitting my day job to start building boards. Good luck to you if you decide to do that. RS has proven to us that he has a "southern hemisphere" mindset and that's his own deal.

    I build my HWS's because it keeps me in the surf game when there's no wave or no time. I also came to the realization that I'm not gonna be the best surfer out there but I will have the best looking board. How many compliments do you get per day on your foam board? Probably about as many as I get on my new haircut... 0. A HWS is never a pop-out, will last for many, many years and is a beautiful thing no matter whose design book you're using.

    Bottom line is I enjoy making them, riding them and learning from past mistakes. Not making them for $$$. I'd bet all of us, even RS, would agree.
     
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  3. Jul 11, 2013 #22
    Cuck Taylor

    Cuck Taylor Well-Known Member

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    Fortunately I pack cocaine into every board I make and it gets sent off the Canada with all the seasonal tourists. Nice way to make a little extra $ image.jpg


    Here I'm preparing to laminate the final layer ( the bottom panel) into the surfboard.
     
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  5. Jul 11, 2013 #23
    Steve83

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    Keep postin pics. This is a really cool build you've got going on.
     
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  6. Jul 11, 2013 #24
    Cuck Taylor

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    I was kidding about the cocaine. I don't use drugs seriously. I was testing the national security agency.

    Tomorrow the four layers will be completely laminated together. The concave in the boards looks so good, getting it in is really quite easy With the flexible battens on the rocker jig. image.jpg
     
    Cuck Taylor, Jul 11, 2013
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  7. Jul 11, 2013 #25
    Cuck Taylor

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    Sorry for the sideways pictures ... I gotta handle that
     
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  8. Jul 11, 2013 #26
    Erock

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    So many different directions I could go with this, I just don't know where to start...


    On another note:
    Look'n good man!
     
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  9. Jul 11, 2013 #27
    weathermaang

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    Very handsome construction going on here. nice work! Stoked to see how these turn out.
     
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  10. Jul 11, 2013 #28
    Cuck Taylor

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  11. Jul 11, 2013 #29
    LBCrew

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    /QUOTE]
    I have grown up on factory mals and generally love them all except the bic of course... those things are suck.[/QUOTE]

    I rode a rented Bic at Malibu, and it was awesome... like living the dream of driving a cast iron car: If anybody drops in on you... "oops."
     
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  12. Jul 12, 2013 #30
    Cuck Taylor

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    Jul 6, 2013
    image.jpg

    Shaping these end grain rails is going to take a while. Notice the concave
     
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  13. Jul 12, 2013 #31
    Cuck Taylor

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    Well guys the boards heavy. Although I was spot on with my estimation it's 30 lbs even. Considering what's still to come off with shaping then the addition of some resin and a fin and some hardware I suspect the ready to ride weight should be close to 30. Yeah I know it's heavy but I think it will be well mannered because of the weight. No doubt very fast too. image.jpg
     
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  14. Jul 12, 2013 #32
    ClemsonSurf

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  15. Jul 12, 2013 #33
    ClemsonSurf

    ClemsonSurf Well-Known Member

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    Looking good, I'm impressed with how fast your build is going too. I really don't mind the weight of my HWS. It did take some getting used to initially but it's nice having the additional momentum.
     
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  16. Jul 12, 2013 #34
    Steve83

    Steve83 Well-Known Member

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    I wouldn't bat an eye at 30 lbs. That will be a great weight. If you haven't surfed a wood board yet you will be pleased with what that weight delivers.

    I'm looking at your pic an I noticed the top looks like a grooved flooring wood? Red cedar? We don't have that available in South Carolina? What's the scoop? Am I way off?
     
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  17. Jul 12, 2013 #35
    Cuck Taylor

    Cuck Taylor Well-Known Member

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    It's western red cedar that I milled into 5/16 thick by 4 inches. The groove you are seeing is a ship lap joint that I made with my bench top router machine. When the rails are shaped the ship lap joint will look unreal. It makes a crazy tiger claw pattern. I put it on a 12 ft sup I made last winter and it works real well
     
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  18. Jul 12, 2013 #36
    Steve83

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    I see.....that's very cool. You are really sparing no expense (in labor) on this one. Can't wait to see the pattern. I stuck with the usuall butt joints on mine.
     
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  19. Jul 12, 2013 #37
    Steve83

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    As you cut the board into its plan shape what method of cutting are you using. I used an electric planer followed by a belt sander with great results.
     
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  20. Jul 12, 2013 #38
    Cuck Taylor

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    Well to cut the blank into the plan shape I used a hand saw and went really slow. To shape the rails from this point I first need to fair the plan shape and I'm doing that with 60 grit long board sanding block and a belt sander combo. After the rails are faired ( as flat as I can get them) I'm going to consider some options with a hand held router using a 45degree chamfer bit on the too to begin the 80 rail profile leading off the deck and then I'm going to use a 1/4 " round over router bit on the bottom to begin the 20 rail profile. I'm going for an 80/20 down rail.

    All that stuff I just said is still just a concept tho. I'm gonna do the method on a piece of wood equal thickness as my board to see the results. I will post a picture of this to get your opinions about starting rails this way. If it works I will save a ton of time and theoretically let me achieve more accurate rail shape because the router bits never lie.

    Heres a picture of how I cut the plan shape image.jpg image.jpg
     
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  21. Jul 12, 2013 #39
    Cuck Taylor

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    F the pics are sideways... I'm on my I phone. F me
     
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  22. Jul 12, 2013 #40
    Steve83

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    Tools

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    I was able to go from pulling the blank off the rocker table to ready to shape rails in a day with the belt sander electric planner option. And that's on 10'5" of surfboard. I also cut the bevel into the rails with the same tool combo. I finished the rails with a orbital sander working from 40 to 60 to 80 grit pads. The final touch was by hand with 100 then 150 grit. Worked like a charm. But tools are a limiting factor. So is money and free time I guess. Such is why mine took 3 months form start to end.

    I'm sending my phone number in a pm. Call anytime you will never be a bother.
     
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