Building the 6'6" Gang Buster. Roy Stuarts Parallel Profile construction method.

Discussion in 'Surfboards and Surfboard Design' started by Cuck Taylor, Jul 7, 2013.

  1. Roy Stuart

    Roy Stuart Well-Known Member

    Jan 27, 2013
  2. Cuck Taylor

    Cuck Taylor Well-Known Member

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    Jul 6, 2013
    Roy the grain crew will never see your template I can assure you that. When I finish my makaha build they probably will just see it at the spots. They are too busy pumping out cnc frames and teaching summer yuppies how to tight bond glue at their wooden board seminars, which is the corner stone of their business I'm pretty sure.
     

  3. grom-ajb

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    Jun 13, 2013
    I don't know much about wooden boards, but this is looking spectacular. A true work of art. Gotta let us know when you're heading out for its maiden voyage. I might have to come down to see it in person...I'm just a couple breaks north.
     
  4. Cuck Taylor

    Cuck Taylor Well-Known Member

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    Jul 6, 2013
    So guys I've shaped the rails. I have done an 80/ 20 rail profile. Let me know your thoughts on whether it looks like and 80/20 !!? Steve sorry I didn't get at ya about your method but I had my own idea that was burning real hot. I think you will like this tho. image.jpg image.jpg image.jpg image.jpg
     
  5. Cuck Taylor

    Cuck Taylor Well-Known Member

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    Jul 6, 2013
    I used a 1-1/4" round over router bit on the deck and a 3/4" round over bit on the bottom. this has done a very nice job as far as symmetry is concerned. if you look at this pic of the rail profile sample you will see what the actual profile on the board looks like. this took me 1 hour to shape the rails. Another note, with the rail profile sample I was able to trace it onto a piece of foam blocking and essentially make a long board sanding block jig that holds the shape of the rail. Im looking to take shortcuts and speed this process and I think I have achieved it. Thoughts ?
     
  6. Steve83

    Steve83 Well-Known Member

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    Apr 17, 2013
    Yes, thats a brilliant idea! It never dawned on me to use a router. That's something I'll try on my next one.
     
  7. Cuck Taylor

    Cuck Taylor Well-Known Member

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    Jul 6, 2013
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    So it's prepped for resin coating. Rails look very straight and even and not a single glue stain so I feel ready to seal it up. I plan to use west system 207 special clear epoxy.
     
  8. Roy Stuart

    Roy Stuart Well-Known Member

    Jan 27, 2013
    Good show Charles. The 207 hardener gives a gold colour to the resin, it's pretty good stuff. I've been meaning to reply to you re. a tunnel fin, will email today. Plans are all done btw.
     
  9. Cuck Taylor

    Cuck Taylor Well-Known Member

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    Jul 6, 2013
  10. Steve83

    Steve83 Well-Known Member

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    Apr 17, 2013
    Very clean looking work Charles. I can't wait to see it after the epoxy goes on.
     
  11. Cuck Taylor

    Cuck Taylor Well-Known Member

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    Jul 6, 2013
    How Many resin coats do u guys recommend ? Also when putting coats on is it best to apply when prior coats have tackified or wait till cure then sand down to allow epoxy to "key" into it's self ? Follow ?
     
  12. EmassSpicoli

    EmassSpicoli Well-Known Member

    Apr 16, 2013
    If what yankee says is true and these three forum names are one and the same person, it's fairly amazing that the one man behind all three has been having an exclusive round table discussion amongst his split personalities for the better part of a few weeks now. Wowzas!
     
  13. Erock

    Erock Well-Known Member

    Aug 6, 2011
    It's best to throw on subsequent coats before the previous coat fully cures. Chemical bond > mechanical bond
     
  14. Cuck Taylor

    Cuck Taylor Well-Known Member

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    Jul 6, 2013
    Thanks Erock that's what I thought but I wasn't 100%
     
  15. Roy Stuart

    Roy Stuart Well-Known Member

    Jan 27, 2013
    It is true that one should re coat before the resin is fully cured, so that chemical bonding occurs. The issue is whether or not to sand between coats. One can re-coat as soon as the resin is tacky enough to do so, but the risk is that the previous coat will have formed an amine blush which will prevent bonding. If amine blush occurs it will do so immediately, as soon as the resin contacts the atmosphere. So although re-coating as early as possible can give the best chemical bond, it can also give no bond at all, it's a bit of a lottery. Using a dehumidifier to keep the humidity below 40% relative humidity works, as long as there's not too much CO2 from breathing in the glassing space, as this also causes amine blush.

    The most reliable method is to wet sand or scrub with steel wool and water as soon as the resin can be sanded. This removes the blush. If the other side of the board is still raw wood then this can be done with a small amount of water and a clean absorbent cloth to make sure that water doesn't get on the raw wood, a masking tape skirt helps with this. Provided that one is only removing blush not fairing the surface a fine grit i.e. 320 or so can be used, as it is faster and less messy.

    Having said that Charles if you are using WEST 105 with 207 hardener it isn't as prone to blush as some resins and can be bonded without sanding quite successfully, it's still best to control the temperature and humidity though, and i'm no longer prepared to risk it.
     
  16. Roy Stuart

    Roy Stuart Well-Known Member

    Jan 27, 2013
    What would be even more amazing is the ability to change my appearance to look like three different people, with three different workshops, and going to the extreme length of using imported Western Red Cedar when I have a shed full of Paulownia.... just so that I can pose as a couple of blokes from the USA.
     
  17. EmassSpicoli

    EmassSpicoli Well-Known Member

    Apr 16, 2013
    And I was talkin a wit ma-se-elf oh oh uh oh. Oh oh uh oh...
     
  18. SHREDSLED

    SHREDSLED Well-Known Member

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    Feb 6, 2012
    I don't care who made it, that is a pretty sweet looking surfboard. Nice work.
     
  19. Cuck Taylor

    Cuck Taylor Well-Known Member

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    Jul 6, 2013
    Thank you shred sled. That's a very nice thing to say. It is my board and I love it so far. I think it will ride very nicely too. I can't wait for hurricane season to test it on some over head surf. Been so flat in Maine.. Typical summer in New England
     
  20. Cuck Taylor

    Cuck Taylor Well-Known Member

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    Jul 6, 2013
    Roy is it possible to use linseed oil to seal the parallel profile boards ?