I've decided I'm going to build a board

Discussion in 'Surfboards and Surfboard Design' started by Bill Cosby's nephew, Jul 22, 2013.

  1. waterbaby

    waterbaby Well-Known Member

    Oct 1, 2012
    the quiet flight "stingfish" is shaped kinda like that..only a little more refined. It's fast and turns great, but paddling not so good. Depending on how much you surf/your paddling, maybe try to get a little more balance between the front and back of the shape.
     
    Last edited: Jul 23, 2013
  2. beagleagle

    beagleagle Well-Known Member

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    wow 17 pages huh? has anyone said SWAYLOCKS.COM yet?? best site ever, do some searches, read to forum, it has everything you could think to ask..
     

  3. Bill Cosby's nephew

    Bill Cosby's nephew Well-Known Member

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    Jun 21, 2013
    LOL ten posts per page. Get with the times, brah
     
  4. goosemagoo

    goosemagoo Well-Known Member

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    ^^^^ pagination is the bane of the internet. Check yo settings and download autopager for firefox or chrome too.
     
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  5. Mitchell

    Mitchell Well-Known Member

    Jan 5, 2009
    Your getting a lot of good advice...I'll throw this in.

    You dont need a lot of tech to shape your first board.
    The first four boards i made were all shaped out in the sun, and glassed outside. All four of the boards shaped and glassed that way served me well for years. Was there a bit of waviness in the rails and bottom that better lighting would have pointed out? Yes. But they rode good to me, and to other relatively good surfers who tried them out multiple times.

    Then i built a shaping room with the good racks and lighting, etc. After maybe a two or three boards your shaping skills are to the point where the better racks and lighting are something you will appreciate.

    Advice: Get a close tolerance poly blank for your first shape, glass it in your garage COMPLETELY out of the sun with UV Cure polyester laminating resin so you can take your sweet time. You will need some styrene surfacing agent for the hoat coat. Get John Carper's Shaping 101 and glassing 101 and watch them over and over until you pretty much get all of the steps down and making sense.
     
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  6. Bill Cosby's nephew

    Bill Cosby's nephew Well-Known Member

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    Jun 21, 2013
    I plan on using a close tolerance PU blank but I want to get one much larger than the size I pan on shaping. I want a 6"8. Would shaping down a 7"3 blank throw my rocker off? I want to be able to use some of the extra foam to practice shaping rails.
     
  7. waterbaby

    waterbaby Well-Known Member

    Oct 1, 2012
    idk, seems like getting a close tolerance blank, then hacking down that much might defeat the purpose. You might be biting off more than you can chew on this first board.
     
  8. Bill Cosby's nephew

    Bill Cosby's nephew Well-Known Member

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    Jun 21, 2013
    Everyone bites off more than they can chew on the first board
     
  9. Mitchell

    Mitchell Well-Known Member

    Jan 5, 2009
    Extra length has nothing to do with shaping rails...thats width. U.S Blanks makes a couple of 6'8" to 6'9" poly fish blanks that are like 24" wide. That would give you more width than you will ever need to deal with your rails.

    With that said, i dont recommend using the blank for "practice". Educate your self about how to cut a clean template, bevel, screen and finish your rails. Then just go do it. Its an $80 hunk of foam, and theres a learning curve. Get good instructions such as the Carper videos, watch them closely and repeatedly, and ask someone whose shaped a board before to help you get started if thats possible.

    Using a 7'3" to build a 6'8" will result in a slightly flatter rockered board than using a 6'9" blank. Its not a big deal if thats what you want. If you decide to go that route, and cut maybe 2" off the nose and 4" off the tail (or 3" and 3") you'll be fine. But the part about the longer blank for rail practice tells me you need to do more research before you buy anything.
     
  10. Bill Cosby's nephew

    Bill Cosby's nephew Well-Known Member

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    I mean literally I want to have a piece of foam that I can practice planing rail markers and blending them into a round shape. I'd only need a small piece
     
  11. sisurfdogg

    sisurfdogg Well-Known Member

    Jun 17, 2013
    The board will tend to pearl dive on steeper waves due to lack off entry rocker. If you are planning on only riding mush waves, it's no big deal. BTW, what is everyone on this thread smoking and can I get some? It is soooo flat right now.
     
  12. Bill Cosby's nephew

    Bill Cosby's nephew Well-Known Member

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    Jun 21, 2013
    I pretty much want to build a groveler. Minimal rocker will be fine
     
  13. LBCrew

    LBCrew Well-Known Member

    Aug 12, 2009
    A 6'8 groveler... is not something you see every day.

    Anyway... racks look good. You're off and running, now. Go down to your local recycling center and see if you can find any blocks of EPS used for packing... or go to Home Cheapo and buy a sheet of EPS foam to cut into strips... glue the pieces together to make a the "rail" of a faux blank to practice on. You'll have to clamp it to something to work on. Once you've tried out your skills, go buy the right blank for your shape. The right blank means everything... from ease of shaping, to cost, to rocker, to durability. Don't buy an oversized blank.
     
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  14. OceanO

    OceanO Well-Known Member

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    Jul 23, 2013
    see if you can find a usblanks 6'0R if your looking to build a groveler. really good small wave rocker. it's a machine blank (for cnc cutting) with extra thickness in the rails, which will hopefully keep you from over-shaping it. the really close tolerance blanks for hand shaping have lower rails. better to practice rail bands the first time on something thicker.
     
  15. rstoup

    rstoup Active Member

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    Jun 25, 2013
    Hey, you should try and shape a handplane first. I shaped a couple and it was a really good experience to understand how to do rail bands. Better to mess up an $8 wood blank then a $100 foam blank. Plus its good practice on how to do rails. I figured since you have the block planes in the shop it shouldnt be too much of a problem. After I shaped a couple and got comfortable with it only then did I try my hand at shaping an actual board.
     
  16. sisurfdogg

    sisurfdogg Well-Known Member

    Jun 17, 2013
    Get the right size blank. Skin it and fin it!
     
  17. Bill Cosby's nephew

    Bill Cosby's nephew Well-Known Member

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    Jun 21, 2013
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    What do you guys think of this template?
     
  18. waterbaby

    waterbaby Well-Known Member

    Oct 1, 2012
    looks like an elongated baked potato with a pointy nose. it'll work, but a rounder nose might help you paddle a little easier
     
  19. Bill Cosby's nephew

    Bill Cosby's nephew Well-Known Member

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    Jun 21, 2013
    I think it will paddle alright. I want the best of both worlds here. I was going for a baked potato/el fuego ripoff that provides some of the groveler and performance in both boards. Also, does anyone know where the ideal spot for the center of mass on a surfboard is? Or does that depend on the rider?
     
  20. Bill Cosby's nephew

    Bill Cosby's nephew Well-Known Member

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    Jun 21, 2013