Question about wave heights

Discussion in 'Mid Atlantic' started by Spunjer, Aug 25, 2013.

  1. Spunjer

    Spunjer Active Member

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    Aug 10, 2013
    need some help here in deciphering the surf report, fellas...
    coming from the islands, we tend to have a different version when it comes to wave sizes. for instance, a 3-5 ft surf with the occasional 6 ft sets would be a double overhead. here on the east coast, when sites like swellinfo and magic seaweed calls for a 2-3 ft surf, is it really 2-3 ft, as in 24-36 inches before it breaks, or after, or something else?
    be taking a trip to OBX next week, and just trying to get some idea on the place.
    mahalo
     
  2. cepriano

    cepriano Well-Known Member

    Apr 20, 2012
    here on the ec 5ft means 3ft.2-3ft means flat.its basically the opposite of Hawaii.for instance,it says waist high today but check a cam,its flat
     

  3. Mad Dog

    Mad Dog Well-Known Member

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    Sep 14, 2012
    On the east coast, when the report says 2-3ft it is usually around 2-3ft. Meaning 6ft would be about head high because the average head is about 6ft high. It is reporting the size of the breaking wave. I've never really understood how or why a double overhead wave would be reported as 6ft but maybe just because I grew up on the east coast and we rarely get big waves.
     
  4. shark-hunter

    shark-hunter Well-Known Member

    Apr 29, 2012
    Because it's moronic. There's plenty of places that get as big as hawaii that don't report wave heights like that. California reports it just like the east coast.
     
  5. Sandblasters

    Sandblasters Well-Known Member

    May 4, 2013
    maybe they just want to make seem like bigger waves to scare away hoales or maybe they are super methed out and they think the wave are bigger.
     
  6. Spunjer

    Spunjer Active Member

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    Aug 10, 2013
    it's actually the opposite, sandblaster. hawaiian scale makes the waves sounds like it's smaller that what it is, ergo 6ft=double overhead. i've heard a lot of explanations on why it's called that way. but the one i'm partial to is that the measurement is taken after it breaks...
    thanks for the explanation on the east coast version, mad dog ;)
     
  7. Koki Barrels

    Koki Barrels Well-Known Member

    Aug 14, 2008
    it certainly wasn't flat today, my friend...had a blast, winds died down a little.
     
  8. Sandblasters

    Sandblasters Well-Known Member

    May 4, 2013
    your right idk wtf i was thinking ha i forgot it was the other way around
     
  9. Mitchell

    Mitchell Well-Known Member

    Jan 5, 2009
    Agree...its wasn't clean but there were some nice lefts coming through this morning. if the WSW @5-10 wind forecast comes through for tomorrow morning, it could be clean and pretty fun.
     
  10. rcarter

    rcarter Well-Known Member

    Jul 26, 2009
  11. shark-hunter

    shark-hunter Well-Known Member

    Apr 29, 2012
    So teahpoo is 2 foot when it has a 25 foot face

    Just saying. Asinine way to measure a wave. Thank god the people around here don't give a surf report like that. How exactly can you see the back of a wave from the beach anyway? Dumbest **** I've ever heard.
     
  12. Spunjer

    Spunjer Active Member

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    Aug 10, 2013
    you don't. just like rcarter said, it's about half of the face.
    it's just something we grew up on; we got used to it....
     
  13. shark-hunter

    shark-hunter Well-Known Member

    Apr 29, 2012
    No you don't. I've seen the reports. Maybe YOU do, but not the reports. A waist high wave is not flat. It's waist high and I know I'd be pretty pissed off if someone was calling a waist high swell "flat". Flat is exactly that....flat. Unrideable. Call the wave height as you see it and forget this macho crap. Surfline calls a waist high swell in California waist high. And California has some of the easiest going mushy waves out there and well as spitting barrels(blacks). Something for everybody.
     
  14. Paddington Jetty Bear

    Paddington Jetty Bear Well-Known Member

    Apr 23, 2013
    Good lord

    These measurements aren't based on how an actual wave measures to you, but the heights are for a dude standing next to a wall and transferring these heights to waves.

    1 foot.........Knee high
    2 foot.........thigh to waist high
    3 foot..........chest high
    4 foot.......... a foot bigger than chest high
    5 foot.......... head high(actually like 12 inches bigger than a 72 inch male)
    6 foot.......... a foot bigger than head high......look at your house....look at your doors......aboot the height of the door frame thing,
    8 foot(don't ever say 7 foot) getting sizeable, a couple feet overhead.......again look at your house, see where the wall meets the ceiling....that's 8 foot.....you people with high ceilings piss-off

    Anything bigger, besides New England point breaks, is victory at sea, wildly out of control conditions.....

    Once a decade a few beachbreaks will hold a 12+ swell...........Very rare.

    These measurements are consistent with 25 years of reading Californian surf mags, Greg "Grog" Masanko's Grog's Surf Palace Surf Report, Mr. John's Surf Unlimited Surf Report, and Surfers Supplies Surf Report.

    This is the correct way. And y'all will use it.
     
  15. Sniffer

    Sniffer Well-Known Member

    Sep 20, 2010
    This is complete nonsense.
     
  16. Sandblasters

    Sandblasters Well-Known Member

    May 4, 2013
    i think you got it wrong because here in the south we use a different scale its called the beer to waves ratio scale. if you have enough before you go out a ankle wave in jersey of course it a double over calf here, like i dont know where yall get this head high crap... its called eye ball high, and the best height of all is cock high when you can really fuk the wave the way you want to.
     
  17. leethestud

    leethestud Well-Known Member

    Aug 12, 2010
    the reports use buoy data. 2-3 ft at short period is actually 2-3 feet. 2-3 ft swell hitting the islands at 18+ seconds is about head high. So yes, and no. That front of the wave vs back of the wave nonsense is just people trying to justify not knowing what they are talking about.
     
  18. Jai-Guru

    Jai-Guru Well-Known Member

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    Jan 4, 2011
    The reports I see on the East coast mostly have a relation to body heigth unless ones talking about off shore wave heights. Also our continental shelf drags down wave size and we're left with a mushy short period wind swell. I'm glad to see big wave chargers calling 40 feet what it really is...40 feet not 20 feet. BTW, if its double overhead here you may not make it out...no channels here. :p:cool:
     
  19. Poseidon

    Poseidon Well-Known Member

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    Aug 23, 2013
    these "scales" and their cute summer pro tag names dont evne matter. just surf and do it well.

    Benny "dude how were the waves"
    War CHild "they were awsome. head high island scale"
    Benny "so like waist high eastern seaboard scale"
    War Child "nah mayne head high island scale would be waist high western scale or thigh high eastern seaboard scale."
    Benny "gopro footage or it didnt happen."
     
  20. Cruzzr75

    Cruzzr75 Active Member

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    Oct 24, 2012
    Thanks for bringing up the wave period. The longer the period the bigger the wave. You should remember this when you are looking at forecasts.