Hey I was out today and we have the no swimming flags up that signify where the surf zone is. The current was strong, but the lifegaurd constantly kept calling me back in because I was very close to the flag that ends the surfing beach. I never once moved into the swimming zone or came close to injuring anyone, but after 2 times he said it is my last warning and if I do it again he was going to escort me off the beach? Is he aloud to do that? I'm in public water and on a public beach and not harming anyone. We always have problems with our lifeguards on the surf beach for some reason. I understand they are there for the safety of everyone and only enforce the rules and not make them, but I feel like some of them are almost " taking advantage " of being the "big guys" out there.
yeah they can, depending where you're at they'll get the cops and youll walk away with a fine too. better off avoiding them all together if you can
Depends purely on if you can paddle faster than he can kayak. Perhaps the WaveJet will be approved by the SI vets for at least one legit use? At any rate, charge at will and hand over duckets for said fine. Small price to pay for exercising your autonomy and commandeering that which you respect in its essence while many of the other denizens just think is amusement like a clown making bikes out of balloons at wedding receptions. I'll post your bail brah, or pay your fine. Release the primordial beast.
yep . seen at 1st street . this guy paddled across the inlet from croatan. there were like 3 lifegaurds hiding behind surfers trying to catch him, Hilarious! The guy was like (nope aint got me). It was all over when a state tropper walked out to end of the jetty and pointed him in.
Concur. Avoid having it become a situation, warranted or not, where the cops get pulled in. End up with a ticket, court time, the fine itself, and court fees. Not worth all that.
That's the way it was most of my surfing life in VB. used to be NO SURFING anywhere except 1st st and south side of pier between 10 and 5 from Memorial to Labor day. They had boats, helicopters, and piggies on foot and atvs. the trick is to ignore them when they beckon you.
No they can not it is public water as long as you are not doing anything illegal thy can not kick you out.
I had a run in with the lifeguards in NJ a couple years ago. It was one of the first hurricane swells and it was pretty perfect about chest to head high. I was surfing with a bunch of other guys out at a non surfing beach since I got on it at dawn. At 9:00 the Lifeguards show up and clear the water since its a non surfing zone. The problem was, it was a red flag day with no swimming allowed so it makes no sense why we would have to get out of the water if the swimmers were not allowed to get in the water anyway. Plus the waves were super fun. Anyway I stayed out for another 45 minutes or so while the lifeguards stood on the beach yelling and blowing there whistles at me. Eventually one guy paddled out screaming at me at the top of his lungs and I basically just told him to F off and kept surfing. I went in about 20 minutes later and they didn't do anything. They were just on some power trip for no reason. Anyway, just ignore them and keep surfing. They are only there for a few months anyway.
No, they cannot. They can ask you to leave, or maybe write you a town ordinance citation, but they cant make you leave. They can call for a police officer to come and "takeover" but all that officer can do is ask you to leave. An officer cannot write a state citation for violation of a town ordinance, it is written in the ordinance book that ordinances are not subject to general statute provisions. On the other hand if a police office orders you to leave an area if it is a lawful command then you can be arrested for RDO, disturbing the peace, disorderly conduct depending on where you live, but you have to be committing a crime as defined by general statute. Good Luck.
I once SUP'd around 7mi island. As in launch from the bay, out the inlet and down the beach. I passed not far outside the breakers and got a real kick as every set of lifeguards did not know what to do. Not sure how close is too close but most didnt look happy. Only run in was when I caught a small wave at the surfing beach and then kept going. 2 guards chased me in the row boat but I just kept paddling. Luckily they just let me go.
allow (present tense) + ed = allowed (past tense) jk - anyway, that lifeguard sounds like a d*ck-tator. The power has gone to his head...but he's, obviously, successfully using it to intimidate guys like you. Even if you did cross the "line", he can only keep warning you. Hell, I've seen guys blatantly surf in the blackball area and literally get out of the water and tell the lifeguard to **** off. The lifeguard stfu and backed off.
lifegaurds are the law of the beach.if they want to kick u out,they will with no problem.if u act arrogant theyd probly call the cops and get ticketed and banned from that particular beach.it happens all summer long.i cant remember the last day in the summer where the waves were big enough to have red flags.i know during bill,they had sandy hook closed off to all swimmers.usually if its a red flag that means u can go out surfin,spongin,etc but no swimming.if I was in that situation id try to paddle as far away from the guards as possible.i know usually that's where the only sandbar is,but its better leavin then getting a bs ticket
I'd honestly just tell em to F*** off man, some off em really get on my nerves when they tell me to get out when im not doing anything
Hey Blackfish, I am from CB too and I have a question about something. I was fishing off the pipe at Alabama the other day. And the lifeguard blows his whistle and waived me off of it. But I just waived back and kept fishing. Is there any law or statute I was violating by fishing there?
most lifeguards are surfers and the last thing they feel like doing is busting another surfers balls they are just trying to keep everybody safe..............the waves suck anyway
as a lifeguard myself i can tell you they are allowed to kick you off the beach and you if you don't leave we normally would call the police. trust me, kicking a surfer out of the water when the waves are pumping and there's no one else out is not an easy thing to do, but if we don't do it we'll either be pink slipped or fired and a beach patrol officer will eventually end up doing it anyway. people wonder why i enforce the rule if i don't agree with it, but 1 rebellious lifeguard isn't enough to get an ordinance changed (yes it's a law). if your town has extremely tight surfing regulations, giving the lifeguards a hard time isn't going to do anything but hurt the overall cause even if they're being ****s. if you can get enough of a local crowd together and complain, then there's a good chance adjustments could be made.
During the last week of July, there was a really decent surf day, as well as many swimmers. The best break was right at the swimming beach, however it broke fairly regularly just outside the zone as well. There are two flags: 1 marking the swimming zone and the other is farther over high on the dune in the surf zone that's yellow with a black circle on it. Using the two flags, we triangulated our position to be certain we weren't in the swimming zone. The lifeguards repeatedly flailed about and tweated us. We stayed. Eventually one paddled out and began screaming at us "What part of move over don't you understand?" I pointed to the flags and said to look. The flag on the left is the end of the swimming zone. Then there's the flag on the dune. we are in between them. He said they couldn't tell that from the beach and to move farther over anyway so they could be sure from the beach, with no apology for his rudeness. Not wanting trouble, we moved. I figured he was just pissed off he couldn't be out surfing. On another day, they had the flags out. Not very many swimmers, so they used the swimming zone as their personal break. Three lifeguards out surfing, and no one else could because it was the swimming zone. I try to follow the rules, but wow, lost some respect for them this summer.
the best is surfing in NJ for dawn patrol, having the lifeguards kick us out of the better break (where no one swims anyways) and then surf it themselves, sometimes they even bring their own boards! I remember during one of the bigger days in June a lifeguard came up to me and my friend on the beach while we took 5 before we paddled out to kick us out, and my friend turned to him and said "This break is the only good one, the swimmers can't swim here today and I don't like the shallow sandbar at the surf beach, it's dangerous. I'm surfing here, just tell your head guy I said to **** off or something I dunno. Thanks."