Using Chemicals is bad. MMMMMMMMKAY?

Discussion in 'Non Surf Related' started by chicharronne, Sep 8, 2013.

  1. brewengineer

    brewengineer Well-Known Member

    Jun 22, 2011
    More than likely lead and mercury poisoning. DU is not much more toxic than Pb or Hg, and use in only a fraction of the shells/armor. However, conventional heavy metal shells were used day there, and probably ended up being inhailed due to the dry/arid climate. No moisture to hold the particulates down. The person that made that probably knows little about heavy metals, and just jumped on the word uranium.

    http://www.iaea.org/newscenter/features/du/du_qaa.shtml
     
  2. OceanO

    OceanO Well-Known Member

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    Jul 23, 2013
    not so sure i ready to just buy whatever the promotions and lobbying arm of the nuke industry says. it's similar to the FDA, and look what they consider safe and reasonable. the IAEA was out in full force after Fukushima trying to convince the world it was no big deal. not a fan.

    regardless, Iraq was turned into a DU sponge.
     
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  3. brewengineer

    brewengineer Well-Known Member

    Jun 22, 2011
    It isn't a nuclear lobbying group, it is a global nuclear scientific community that has studied radioactivity of DU. The half life even shows that DU is very low on the radioactivity scale. Anyways, I always trust scientific studies before I trust random Facebook photos. The neurotoxicity of mercury an lead is well known and thoroughly studied. These two metals were the most abundantly used in Iraq. I am not saying DU didn't have some part in it. I am just saying it was no worse than the cloud of other heavy metals released in that area.
     
  4. OceanO

    OceanO Well-Known Member

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    Jul 23, 2013

    true for the most part. and you def can't trust random photos.

    side note: look at your avatar! lol. from DU, lead or mercury? maybe the pic Archy posted was just Chunk's kid?

    DU, mercury and lead suck. but it's more common for people to deal with lead and mercury in day to day life. doesn't sound as scary as Depleted Uranium. all bad stuff though.

    IAEA is the global pimp of nuclear power. it's a UN institution with offshoots like the NEI (Nuclear Energy Institute) and UNSCEAR (United Nations Scientific Committee on the Effects of Atomic Radiation). they all claimed Fukushima was pretty much no big deal and there was no present or future cancer danger or other ill effects from the disaster over there. they might provide some oversite (like the FDA) but thats not it's sole purpose. doesn't matter though. the US did all kinds of fu#ked up things to Iraq.

    if it's pruely a scientific community, then so are the ones set up by the tobacco industry and oil industry.
     
  5. archy 2.0

    archy 2.0 Well-Known Member

    Jul 5, 2012
    it's Al-CIAeda. the CIA infiltrated Al-Qeda in the late 70's to fight Russia in Afghanistan and Osama Bin Laden was on CIA payroll well after 9/11. people refuse to believe this even though its all on public record.

    The war in Syria is just one part of a larger plan to destabilize the middle east which includes Egypt, Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran, Yemen, and Somalia. these countries have not bought into the global banking system and therefore cannot be financially controlled.

    The CIA and the US military have been training radicalized Muslims in Turkey for over 2 years now to take over Syria, and all fingers point to the US backed Syrian rebels as being responsible for the chemical attack. The only reason Ovimit wants to invade Syria is because Assad is winning the fight against the rebels.

    I've said it before, and have gotten the tinfoil hat moniker, but the US government is not represented by the citizens, but the world banks and major corporations like Monsanto and Lockheed Martin. all the endless war of the past 20 years is a result of this, not some crazy Jihadists and their hate for Western lifestyle.
     
  6. brewengineer

    brewengineer Well-Known Member

    Jun 22, 2011
    Well, if you don't like that link, you can find a dozen others on the radioactivity of DU. It was the first one I found and had actual references.

    http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/ewh-semt/pubs/radiation/uranium-eng.php
    http://www.who.int/ionizing_radiation/pub_meet/en/Depluraniumintro.pdf

    Don't be fooled by the fact that it is called uranium. It just isn't very radioactive. The main health issues spawn from the same neurotoxicity found in all heavy metals.

    As for what we did in Iraq, I agree that it was messed up. Unfortunately, that is no worse than what happens in any war. There is no such thing as civilized warfare. There are also no wars without excessive civilian casualties.
     
  7. aka pumpmaster

    aka pumpmaster Well-Known Member

    Apr 30, 2008
    pb is the best chemical for dealing with hippies
     
  8. OceanO

    OceanO Well-Known Member

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    Jul 23, 2013
    yep. no tin foil involved though. these things are not a conspiracy. simple facts.

    first and foremost it's all about oil, gas and also whether or not they will continue to hinge off the US dollar. none of the players really give a sh!t for one second about WMDs or crazy arabs and or muslims.

    Iraq was really about... competition with China. we went in to keep Saddam from selling his sanctioned oil to China, who wanted to bypass the US dollar when trading oil. they do it anyhow now. they just don't have access to very much oil since we basically took Iraq's off the market, hence the massive spike in crude prices since 2003. it's all one big fu@ked up chess game.
     
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  9. OceanO

    OceanO Well-Known Member

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    no no....i agree. the term 'depleted' means something. i just have a dislike of the IAEA being some sort of governing body. but your right
     
  10. OceanO

    OceanO Well-Known Member

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    if weed was fully legal the cops could pacify people by pumping pot smoke at the protesters instead of pepper spray. what hippy would complain then? they might even start liking the cops.

    although this was no protest and no free pot smoke, something along these lines would be great too http://mynorthwest.com/11/2334601/Dude-Seattle-police-to-give-out-munchies-at-Hempfest
     
  11. chicharronne

    chicharronne Well-Known Member

    Jun 22, 2006
    Kerry fugged up yesterday. when asked what he would do if Syria offered to give up it's chemical weapons, he said they would accept it but doubted it would happen. Syria said "YES WE WOULD!!". Russia said they would make sure.
    today the MSM says it was a deal made during obammys trip there earlier.
     
  12. brewengineer

    brewengineer Well-Known Member

    Jun 22, 2011
    True story. I don't agree with Archy's theory about world banks or Lockheed (they are just a ***** to the government war machine and have no real control). However, it is not hard to see why we have been constantly involved in the middle east.
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  13. aka pumpmaster

    aka pumpmaster Well-Known Member

    Apr 30, 2008
    Interesting. How do you account for all the oil shale and sand that is becoming so productive in this theory?? And until recently, please explain the huge military presence in Europe that has little oil?
     
  14. OceanO

    OceanO Well-Known Member

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    everybody is involved somehow in the ongoing World Resource Wars

    oil shale is expensive to refine. it's sour crude. it's full of hydrogen sulfide, benzene and other stuff. most of it ends up as bunker fuel (for shipping and heavy machinery) or heating oil. ain't nothing like that middle east stuff. that's the pure. PJB should know all about this through a different medium.
     
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  15. aka pumpmaster

    aka pumpmaster Well-Known Member

    Apr 30, 2008
    note: resource wars have been going on since we lived in africa
     
  16. OceanO

    OceanO Well-Known Member

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    right. correction: Energy Wars. and just over the horizon: Water Wars
     
  17. aka pumpmaster

    aka pumpmaster Well-Known Member

    Apr 30, 2008
    and before energy it was food, land and whatnot.
     
  18. OceanO

    OceanO Well-Known Member

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    big difference is now there is way too many people. without secured energy sources sh!t gets bad really quick. everything is more critical now. it's the nature of an evolving species. and evolution by it's very nature is happening faster and faster all the time.
     
  19. aka pumpmaster

    aka pumpmaster Well-Known Member

    Apr 30, 2008
    but we also have better ways to kill more of them.
     
  20. archy 2.0

    archy 2.0 Well-Known Member

    Jul 5, 2012
    The huge military presence in Europe is the same reason as the huge military presence in this country. DHS is now the 5th branch of the US military, with enough munitions to wage a 30 year Iraq war.

    It's all about control. Connect the dots. The slow erosion of the Constitution, the controlled demise of the economy via the Federal Reserve, the nix of the Glass Steagal Act, the opening of borders, and the lift on trade sanctions. The war on drugs shipped and supplied by the gov. The war on terror created by the gov. Yes 9/11 was an inside job. The demoralization and manipulation by the mainstream gov influenced and controlled media. The persecution of dissidents, patriots, the press, religious beliefs, gun owners, and political parties.

    Call me tin foil hat dude, but as many politicians have said its time to welcome in a New World Order.

    All this is a plan to bring on a one world gov with a one world currency with a few in power and the rest at the mercy of the few.