Using Chemicals is bad. MMMMMMMMKAY?

Discussion in 'Non Surf Related' started by chicharronne, Sep 8, 2013.

  1. aka pumpmaster

    aka pumpmaster Well-Known Member

    Apr 30, 2008
    so i guess the BIG question is what are YOU doing about it besides whining on a message board?
     
  2. OceanO

    OceanO Well-Known Member

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    Jul 23, 2013
    whining? if that's the case, then everything ever posted on SI is whining. or we discussing? you know the difference? should people not talk about these things? should we go back to the tired sh!t about north vs south and the current flat spell? football and surfboard design are fun topics right now. any suggestions APM?
     

  3. aka pumpmaster

    aka pumpmaster Well-Known Member

    Apr 30, 2008
    Im talking about ACTION. We talk things to death in the country but very few actually do anything about it.
     
  4. OceanO

    OceanO Well-Known Member

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    Jul 23, 2013
    i might have heckled you in the past, but i do agree with you. crazy times to be alive.
     
  5. OceanO

    OceanO Well-Known Member

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    Jul 23, 2013
    because 99% of people could care less about what happens beyond the end of their nose. and the people with real power literally sit in lairs and scheme this sh!t. and they're pretty good at it by the looks of things.

    the best thing that could happen is more and more people talk about it. discussion is where the beginnings of any action(s) always take place.

    besides, any topic to take the edge off the epic flat spell is welcome
     
  6. brewengineer

    brewengineer Well-Known Member

    Jun 22, 2011
    We haven't fought any wars in Europe since WW2. I didn't say every military action and presence has to do with oil. I just mentioned oil as a main driver in the government's decision to keep fighting wars for other messed up countries in the sandbox. Oil sands are expensive to separate/refine, cause many environmental issues, and produce far less end product than Arabian or American crude.
     
  7. aka pumpmaster

    aka pumpmaster Well-Known Member

    Apr 30, 2008
    Whereas other conspiracies clear tie our involvement in the middle east to Israel.....
     
  8. archy 2.0

    archy 2.0 Well-Known Member

    Jul 5, 2012
    No whining here pumpdude, just spreading info. Cuz it's like this: a few months back I was deemed a paranoid kook for what I was saying. but now since the establishment has been caught with their pants down, people are agreeing with me.

    If no one was out there spreading this info we would still be blindly following these corrupt individuals.

    I am acting with the passage of knowledge, bcuz the more people that awaken to this crap the more power we have to defeat them. there is strenght in numbers.and also acting with my$$$$. When possible, My money goes to people not corporations.
     
  9. brewengineer

    brewengineer Well-Known Member

    Jun 22, 2011
    Yeah, I would say there is more evidence of resource and energy as the reason for war. The US is an energy hog of a country, and we cannot support the demand currently. All the anti-nuke hippies fight against building reactors, while the environmentalists fight deep sea oil drilling. The only other current option is to import resources.
     
  10. brewengineer

    brewengineer Well-Known Member

    Jun 22, 2011
    You are paranoid, not because you question the government's actions, but because you think everything and everyone in the world is out to get you. You will post some interesting ideas here and there, then ruin it with comments about corporations owning the world governments. The government is corrupt, that I agree with. The issue, is that they don't need corporations to make them corrupt. Politicians do that on their own. If anything, it is the governments that own the major corporations.
     
  11. OceanO

    OceanO Well-Known Member

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    Jul 23, 2013
    they're one and the same. very blurred line there

    everything is schemed when it comes to how big corporations and the gov deal with each other. for instance, look at the hand they both have in the national debt. created by design with global competition in mind. like the old Hebrew saying: if you owe the bank $10, the bank owns you. if you owe the bank $1,000,000 you own the bank.
     
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  12. archy 2.0

    archy 2.0 Well-Known Member

    Jul 5, 2012
    Hmmm, I didn't know the gov owned Monsanto. If they do, then why does Monsanto give politians bribes uhum I mean lobby them to carry forth their agenda?
     
  13. aka pumpmaster

    aka pumpmaster Well-Known Member

    Apr 30, 2008
    in a true conspiracy, wouldn't the govt just make these people disappear? that seems must easier to me than these elaborate plans we keep hearing about.
     
  14. aka pumpmaster

    aka pumpmaster Well-Known Member

    Apr 30, 2008
    brew hit it pretty solid. govt scares me way more than corporations do. Corps at least have competition to keep them in line but govt has nothing.
     
  15. OceanO

    OceanO Well-Known Member

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    Jul 23, 2013
    competiton? think you'd be surprised at who the majority share holders are of all the major corporations. the same names come up over and over. there is a reason the wealthiest 1% have 95% of the wealth in this country.

    but i agree, the gov is scary seeing as it's used as the strong arm of corporate america.
     
  16. archy 2.0

    archy 2.0 Well-Known Member

    Jul 5, 2012
    first off I don't think everyone is out to get me, (and not just me but the rest of humanity that are not in the elite club) just a select few. these select few have influenced governments for centuries. they own much of the worlds corporations too.

    straight from the horses mouth to your computer screen brew. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8zWLOnNe6o
     
  17. cepriano

    cepriano Well-Known Member

    Apr 20, 2012
    America is going down the toob,but its still the best country to live in.it is a police state in certain parts of America,typically the tri state area.i cant leave my town without seeing 6 cops.other parts like Washington,certain towns have like 10 cops.

    Vietnam was started off a lie,the gulf of Tonkin incident.the war was never meant to be won,just sustained.

    funny in Ukraine,they toppled the statue of the general who saved them from the Nazis and napoleon.its messed up everywhere
     
  18. surfingwasteland

    surfingwasteland Well-Known Member

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    Jul 24, 2011
    The idea of rising up and starting civil/world wars only to start the cycle of corruption over again is silly to me.
     
  19. worsey

    worsey Well-Known Member

    Oct 13, 2013