hands and feet pain after surfing in cold water

Discussion in 'All Discussions' started by testrada, Sep 16, 2013.

  1. testrada

    testrada Member

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    Jun 27, 2013
    whenever I surf in cold water (ie. 60f, north east, NH), I get pain on the center top of both of my hands, right smack center between the wrists and knuckles. it lasts for about 1-2 days. it becomes painful to do anything with my hands. there is no pain on the wrists nor knuckles. the top of my feet have similar symptoms but not as drastic. there is no discoloration. there is a bit of swelling on the top of the hand. I take ibuprofen to subside the pain/inflammation, but I'd like to get to the root of the cause as it only happens to me. I am 45y/o, male, in relatively good health. I have been checked for rheumatoid arthritis by a specialist and she said I have normal joint for my age and that i don't have R/A. Anyways, the pain is not on the joints but rather on the center of the hands and top of the feet near the ankles. It happens whether I wear gloves or not. I know, if I wear thicker gloves it will probably happen less severely, but I am interested in knowing the underlying cause inside of me since it does not happen to anyone else I know that surfs with me (older nor younger). Anyone else experience these symptoms?
    Thank you very much
     
  2. thisguysthumbs

    thisguysthumbs Well-Known Member

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    Jul 25, 2012
    Welcome to getting old. That's just gonna be your thing. Thank God you can still paddle!!!
     

  3. testrada

    testrada Member

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    Jun 27, 2013
    I can accept that :) but wondering why it does not happen to friends that are 10 years older...?
     
  4. brewengineer

    brewengineer Well-Known Member

    Jun 22, 2011
    Sounds like a nerve or circulation issue. However, I am not a doctor. You might want to talk to a neurologist.
     
  5. Mad Atom

    Mad Atom Well-Known Member

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    Jul 16, 2013
    Can you connect this to a specific wetsuit? It could be that the wetsuit you use in these conditions is cutting off some circulation. If it still happens when you wear proper gloves that leads me to believe it's not actually the water temperature that's causing this. Just a thought...
     
  6. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    Have you been checked for carpal tunnel? Or Pinched nerves? Not that i'm a doc or anything, but it sound like something in the nervous system. Do you get this in warm water too? Or just cold water?
     
  7. testrada

    testrada Member

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    Jun 27, 2013
    good point. its a 3/2 and it is not tight at all; I feel very comfortable in it. it also happened last year when I was wearing a 5/4/3. I wore the 3/2 all summer when water was not as cold and I did not experience the pain afterwards, so it leads me to believe more of it being a temperature induced issue. thanks for the suggestion
     
  8. testrada

    testrada Member

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    Jun 27, 2013
    only cold water as far as I can tell.
    have not been checked for carpal tunnel, but I don't have the any of the symptoms of C.T.:
    "tingling, numbness, weakness, or pain felt in the fingers or, less commonly, in the palm"


    thanks for the suggestion; maybe some nerve issues. might consult with a chiropractor.
     
    Last edited: Sep 16, 2013
  9. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    I'd check with a regular physician first, chiropractors want nothing more than for you to come back to them every week or sometimes more often just to keep the money flowing. I'd get a physical at your primary care, then get a recommendation / referral to a specialist (depending what he thinks), never know, might be blood flow thing, it's happening at your extremities which is what happens with hypothermia, so i'd skip the chiro at first and get a real doc's opinion, THEN if he says to check a chiro I would. That's my .02, good luck figuring it out.
     
  10. dudeclimbing

    dudeclimbing Well-Known Member

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    Apr 16, 2013
    Hey what do ya do for a job. It may be work related. Like if ya been in construction, sports, computer work etc. ya getting old sucks. It may be years of abuse. Is it just your hands or other parts of the body as well? I suggest see a sports doctor. These guys are on the forward end of healing athletes. I know a lot of guys who ride motorcycles a lot deal with some issues like you are describing when they surf. Well good luck n happy trails.
     
  11. ClemsonSurf

    ClemsonSurf Well-Known Member

    Dec 10, 2007
    Have you ever worn a crown of thorns?

    Sounds like stigmata.
     
  12. MrMacdugal

    MrMacdugal Well-Known Member

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    Aug 19, 2011
    It could just be that you have small muscles between your fingers and the extra strain during paddling causes them to be painful for a period of time after surfing. I know the tops of my hands can get sore from a lot of hard paddling and keeping my hands cupped. It happens to me more when I have thicker gloves on. I know you said it happens less with thicker gloves, but it may not be completely temp related.
    Its in your feet too because you probably point your toes a lot while laying on the board/ paddling.
    You have tired hands and feet. You may need to get out more and get them conditioned. I might be wrong, but its just a thought.
     
  13. Alvin

    Alvin Well-Known Member

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    Dec 29, 2009
    Practice surfers yoga if you dont already. It combines strength, flexibility, better circulation and how to focus your body during high end activities. I'm 53 and always have to adjust and be flexible to the conditions.
     
  14. Special Whale Glue

    Special Whale Glue Well-Known Member

    Oct 8, 2011
    I have gloves that are too narrow and cause hand pain for a day or two. Maybe this? When I use gloves that accommodate the full width of my hands I have no issue.
    Lack of use with your hand cupping muscles could cause soreness when used.
    Sounds like an excess of lactic acid and limited oxygen and h2o to filter it away from those areas. How's your circulation, wind, water consumption?
    I'm no doc, these things just came to mind. Good luck on the relief
     
  15. chicharronne

    chicharronne Well-Known Member

    Jun 22, 2006
    I was once out too long, in freezing water and air temps, and when I got my suit off, my wiener had inverted. My (massively huge) outie was an innie. had to get mt wifey to warm the li'l feller up to get him out.
     
  16. BossMan

    BossMan New Member

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    Aug 25, 2009
    Hand pain after surfing

    Hey Testrada,
    I know this forum is over two years old so my chance of a reply is probably zero. I googled this and it brought me to your forum. I have the same problem. I surfed about 4 hours this past Saturday. The next day I woke up with the pain in both hands and could barely straighten my hands out. It's now two days later and my left hand is somewhat better but my right hand feels like it's broken. Same as you described, the pain and swelling is on the back of the hand between the knuckles and wrist. However, I don't have the pain in my feet. This is the first time this has ever happened to me. The water was about 57 degrees and I was wearing my 3/2 with 3mm gloves and boots. I have been surfing for 43 years. I'm 59 so I know I'm getting old but this is weird. Just wondering if you still have the problem and if you ever figured out what it is.
     
  17. testrada

    testrada Member

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    Jun 27, 2013
    Ha. The magic of email :)
    I never figured out a root cause but it has become A LOT better; almost gone completely.

    I have done the following changes in my life (so I don't know if it is a mix, or one particular thing, or none of the above):
    - started doing yoga (hot yoga) and stretching much more often after having lower back pain
    - improved diet (nearly zero processed foods. try to stick to organic or natural stuff most of the time)
    - started using non-flouride toothpaste, non-aluminum deodorant, organic soap. basically trying to cut out all the synthetic chemicals as much as I can
    - use oils and oil extracts (google essential oils)

    I was checked for lyme but it came back negative.
    I did get shingles that same year when I was having the pains, so it might be related.

    That's pretty much it. good luck with it. if you do find more, do chime in :)

    Tony
     
  18. testrada

    testrada Member

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    Jun 27, 2013
    I few other things that come to my head:
    - no teflon cookware

    This may be one that sounds like having the most impact:
    I have not surfed 4 hours straight for a while. The most I last is 2.5-3 hours. By 3 hours I am beat and I start falling a lot (fatigued) so it is my indicator to take a break. I may go back in for another 1-2 hour session later in the day, but I have not surfed 4 hours straight for a long time.

    Good luck again
     
  19. BossMan

    BossMan New Member

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    Aug 25, 2009
    Never expected a reply let alone that fast. Glad to hear you are doing better. You are doing all the right things with your health. There are a lot of tendons that run across the back of the hand and I'm thinking that they became inflamed from overuse. I have had other tendon issues over the last few years i.e. shoulder and elbows. I know I overdid it for my age. Hoping I'll be back to normal in a couple more days. It's good to know we are not alone with these strange problems. Thanks for your informative replies.
     
  20. yankee

    yankee Well-Known Member

    Sep 26, 2008
    Yet another medical advise tread & discourse. This palce is nothinge shorte of awesome!