military bases and surf potential

Julia gulia, some of us like reefs and points too not just sand bars. Even if you do move in close proximity to a good break, don't forget about the others within a drive. As I just mentioned in another thread the home breaks aren't cookin this weekend like those a state away.

 

Amen julia! amen!

 

I'll add something...Don't join the military. It's a racket.
And don't take my word for it...take
two time Medal of Honor recipient, Maj. General Smedley Butler's word for it:
http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/warisaracket.html

"Originally printed in 1935, War Is a Racket is General Smedley Butler's frank speech describing his role as a soldier as nothing more than serving as a puppet for big-business interests...."

 

Here's an old article about the place

http://www.zianet.com/tedmorris/dg/surf.html

 

very good on the smedley butler link bbg

 

MIS and BBG,
I respect your opinions and I know from your previous posts that you guys do not speak form ignorance but gather your info through research but I disagree with the general statement that no one should go in the military.
Smedley Butler probably didn't grow up poor white trash or as a poor minority in the ghetto. For some it is the only way out. I always tell people if I hadn't joined USMC, I'd have ended up dead or in prison. Well, I only ended up in prison! I was a little older than the other recruits so I was able to see through some of bullsh!t. I also was able to surf Topsail from time to time and I grew to really dig SE NC Thought I was going to stay there but NJ sucked me back in. Had I stayed I probably don't do time.

 

Chavez, you are right it does help some people, but it helps the corporate masters even more.
It would be great to give young folks a chance at success if it didn't involve enforcing violence to make foreign gvts cater to multinational corporations.

 

I was a Seabee stationed at Port Hueneme CA. in the '80's. We would deploy overseas for 8 months, and then come back to home port at Hueneme for 6-7 months. When back, we had little to do apart from an occasional school. We lived off the base in a beach front condo. We would get up at 5am, surf for an hour and a half, throw on our uniforms, and report for "morning quarters". As we bent over during calisthenics the salt water
would pour out of our sinuses and make puddles on the asphalt. The fat ****s smoking their cigarettes and drinking their coffee would look at us like we were nuts. If the conditions were still good we'd be back in the water by 9am, not having to report back until 1pm. What a life.
We surfed that coast from Pt. Magu north to Rincon. The locals could pick us out as military as in those days no one had short hair, but we didn't give a ****, we just move down the beach a bit. What a time.

I also deployed to Diego Garcia for 8 months, and can tell you that there was no surfing there. There was a reef that went all the way around that U-shaped island, and no openings in the reef except at the harbor mouth, and if you could of found or made a board, they wouldn't have let you surf there anyway.

 

So true Emass! Driving distance is always good and rents are more affordable!!

 

I grew up and work around Navy bases. Although having never served active duty, if I can go back to my 20s, I would have joined the Reserves. I can keep my normal 9-5 and still have access to surf breaks within military bases.

 

Different era...The Banana Wars literally did serve US business interests....the sole purpose. Some real messed up stuff if you read into it. We eventually got fed up with our own lies and left in the early 1930s. Not sure you could make the same argument in the post WW2 world. Was the cold war about big business? Well we certainly benefit from the military spending today. Who is willing to give up their standard of living? Send the south back to sharecropping? Air travel? Plastics? computer? Dang maybe it was about business interests!

Edit: Sorry got off topic places the Navy/ coast guard can send you with surf (been to a few): Oahu, Micronesia, Spain, so Cal, Nor Cal, Oregon, Okinawa,mainland Japan, Alaska, Puerto Rico, of the top of my head... my wife is in medical opening up Jakarta and Lima as well...depending on what you do in the service I know folks that have had assignments taking them to various Indonesian and Caribbean islands, central America, Sri Lanka, and India

Of course they might also send you to western Africa or Afghanistan!

 

Did you know John Donahue? He was a SEABEE Steelworker stationed there then. I worked at NSWC Pt Hueneme from 1984 (right after getting out of the Navy) until 1997 when I transferred to VA Bch. I didn't surf then, but did a fair amount of SCUBA diving.

 

Very true. About 80 years ago or so, FDR created the Civilian Conservation Corp. It puts thousands of young people to work during the Great Depression. We could use something like that now. BTW, I scored nice waves in ole NJ this AM.

 

stranded in smithfield , you are saying it serve interests....to kill people and make them work for US Fruit...thats cold

and Chich, glad the ole jers payed off, shes fickle, but gives the goods on her days.

 

I do remember John Donahue. Kind of a short guy, he was in mcb40 also. He got out about the same time I did and was planning to stay in Cali.

 

John's my brother-in-law. I married his sister in 87. John married several years later and moved back to Rome, NY. He stayed in the Reserves and retired. My family and I went up there for a short visit a couple weeks ago.

I work at NAS Oceana Dam Neck Annex. It has its own stretch of beaches which are never crowded, and the parking is free. I think there may be 10 or so regulars who surf there year round.

 

^ I used to love Dam Neck. Only military folks and kids from that Sandbridge neighborhood with no other Public parking for miles!

Did that come across the wrong way? Serve business interests... yes. Wasn't saying it was right but just the way it is. Pretty much screwed over Nicaragua for the entire 20th century...luckily they don't hold a grudge (even thought the current government are FSLN hold overs). Not sure about the GWOT but all of us benefited from US extreme military spending of the 20th century in one way or another.

 

How can accumulating massive debts be counted as a benefit to society?

 

Government intervention in the marketplace/workforce/economy is the cause of our current unemployment mess and the cause of most unemployment in the past. According to your prescription all we need is for more intervention by Government to get us out of the mess that it created. The USSR had the same plan. It didn't work well in practice. Sure everyone had a cushy job but planned economies don't age well as history shows.

 

Chav, sorry to hear about your post-USMC experiences. All this is tough for soldiers to talk about and consider because I know how the allegiance to the corps etc it gets in your blood. I don't mean any disrespect to troops, I criticize the military because maybe, just maybe, my words will cause a young potential recruit to think twice about joining up. One less body bag is all I'm after.