Roy on Radio

Now I havent seen one up close but they (roy's) are very long boards and his planing surface might be comparable to a standard noseriders? and then add the turned up nose. Also maybe I am imagining this as I have never rode one, but the olo seems like it float/glides, kinda like a good powder day?

there is a niche for it, just not for me. I want to go vertical and re-enter, the more acceleration (delta magnitude or direction) the more fun for me. The olo board goes straight, if it can turn, Id like to see a demonstration, but I think I am barking up the wrong tree trying to ask for proof.

 

ya but just think if he used that whole 13+ feet as planing surface. Ive seen a vid or two of skip frye on a 12ft board and it wasnt all upturned at the nose. I just think for a longboard, the flatter the better, unless its tail rocker for noserides.

 

I've never, in all of the conversations I've read on the so called parallel profile foil, heard anyone say, "it can't be done." All I know is that it has, and still is. There are those who don't prefer it, and continue to debate it's value, but to say it can't be done is just crazy.

 

and one of tom wegener on like a 16ft wood lb. Not the same appearance at all. Of course ive never seen any of these in person. Heck i'd like to see a $500,000+ surfboard in person.

 

He will let you touch it for a dollar

 

hahahhaaaa!!! Ummm now i dont even wana see IT....

 

Roy's on a "different path" as he says in the audio. What I find strange is that some refuse to listen to the audio yet still assume that someone who "invented" his first longboard would have any inclination to modify his design to be more like the shapes he was purposely trying to distance himself from. Well, 200 designs. Invest in cryogenics, Roy.

I'll try to ride anything in the right conditions, but if he's getting 300-400 yard rides at his local break on his 19' airplane, who here wouldn't want to do that?

Personally, I think my friends who ride only one or two boards and refuse to try something different are foolish. I guess the same could be said of you, Roy, but you've been surfing longer than I've been alive and I respect your designs and what you're doing. Good stuff.

But the ironic part of the audio is that:
The man who shunned foam and fiberglass boards so many years ago is now about to make foam and fiberglass boards.
The man who sold "nothing but alaia blanks" for a year acknowledges that the ancient board has become a fad.
The man who is selling a $1.3 million "Year of the Dragon" surfboard, shunned injection-molding to create fins because,

It didn't sell, huh?

But that's really nitpicking. I can't knock another surfer's design if it works and clearly it does. I wouldn't mind trying one if you're ever in the area or I'm in NZ. I just wanted my first board to float. Success!

 

I'll have to say I am enjoying the discourse in this thread and must commend you all... interesting ideas and concepts.

Keep it up men.

 

This is a good foil comparison

The big boards comparison then the wood fish

 

THANK YOU!!! But i still see a much more pronounced nose rocker in Roy's shape. Even more so than in the fish you shaped CT. Your fish looks more like the continuous arc, as the olo (i think thats what you called it) has a definite kick a foot or so from the tip.

If it were a shorter board that wanted to be right in the curve of the wave i could see that as beneficial but otherwise it seems a hindrance. I get that he wants to be different, so is that the whole reason behind that design?

And in regard to the other poster saying roy's getting 300-400 yard rides, how close is his home break to Raglan? Where that could be possible on any type board.

 

What's the point of bringing this forum aback and why was it removed anyway

 

I have no idea. He said his home town and break in the audio but honestly I don't remember and the whole time he sounded like Mick Fanning so I was trying to make sense of that. My comments were based on what he said so if he's fudging it I wouldn't know. I've never been down there.

I'm not defending him, just acknowledging that I appreciate another surfer's efforts to discover whatever floats his boat -- and in Roy's case it's obviously a boat.

 

The appearance of the nose kick is certainly exaggerated in appearance because of the rocker dimension as a whole. If this olo was to use an even rocker or continuous as they say the swooping nose kick wouldn't visibly stand out, it would rest more like the takayama pic which is fairly even rocker. Also again the parallel profile means that the thickness distribution is even, so any rocker shape will appear on the deck. It's certainly different but as far as rocker measurements go these olo boards aren't too different from most other surfboards.

Roy does design the olo with continuous rockers, which I'll be doing one of them soon. I like how the continuous rocker feels and can't wait to try a even rockered Roy olo, I think it's gonna feel vastly different than my flat tailed nose flipped olo I have now. The correlations between plan shape and rockers is another aspect Roy works out nicely but you'll need him to answer these details. I don't invent it I just report it.

 

I was gona ask another question but i think im over it.
You guys are taking things designed for one aspect of surfing and using them for a whole different, less efficient purpose. Like "high performance longboards". Hey if thats what you wanna do go for it. But not for me.

Good luck with those boards. I'm stoked that theres still people out there willing to try different things. For reals thats rad.

 

Well I don't know if it's fair to say cut and dry that the olo and it's rocker dimensions are less efficient. The rocker dimensions are normal it's just that the key difference is FOIL

Your allowed your opinion about these long boards and the belief that there inefficient but what about parallel profile Simmons ? Or the parallel profile fish ? Are these inefficient in your opinion ? I'm not trying to sound like a douche, mike , I enjoy your conversation.

 

A gun with no tail rocker. At glance the rocker curve looks like the curve on the makaha olo except there is some tail rocker on the makaha. Not much but some. Similar rocker curve appearance