Hws blanks

Discussion in 'Surfboards and Surfboard Design' started by Cuck Taylor, Mar 7, 2014.

  1. BSnyder

    BSnyder Well-Known Member

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    Oct 20, 2013
    Good luck Charles. I'd give one a try.
     
  2. leetymike808

    leetymike808 Well-Known Member

    752
    Nov 16, 2013
    How bout you just send me that fish. With future boxes tho...
     

  3. Cuck Taylor

    Cuck Taylor Well-Known Member

    853
    Jul 6, 2013
    thanks guys for the comments. right now were working on having a custom fitting made, that we can market along side these hws blanks products and that is a bike tube stem with a thread that can fit into the pre installed vent that goes along with these boards, this will enable people to pressure test with their bike pumps, just pump it up a bit and listen and get your pressure gauge to make sure it can hold pressure.

    A hollow wooden product like this can be high risk to the consumer, were trying to completely eliminate that.

    the hws blanks fish is technically ready for market but were still solving the at home pressure testing option like I mentioned. aLso a good deal of packaging and branding work is underway. Were also offering a retro single fin, nice and simple, and fun to shape.
     
  4. seldom seen

    seldom seen Well-Known Member

    Aug 21, 2012
    The boards look great Charles.
     
  5. EmassSpicoli

    EmassSpicoli Well-Known Member

    Apr 16, 2013
    Chuckles can you explain more of this pump mechanism, is it a shock system for weight applied to deck while surfing? Are there more dowels in the frame than Hess boards (looks like he uses 2) ?
     
  6. Cuck Taylor

    Cuck Taylor Well-Known Member

    853
    Jul 6, 2013
    spicoli, pumping air into the board is used to pressure test the hollow chambered timber surfing vessel. Our blanks are hollow, glued with epoxy, and intended to be waterproofed with oils, were trying to create marketable products that don't rely on the use of glass reinforced resins or other straight resin coating options, however our products can be sealed with resins, which will really make it bullet proof, but its not necessary, and it's ultimately up to the consumer who shapes it. so the pumping of air is to ensure the blank holds its pressure naturally, and so we will be offering, with our products, a specially built valve stem so consumers at home can pump it a few times with the bike pump to make sure its holding pressure.

    Our demo blank thats been in use has been very liked and its only got oil keeping the water off the wood, the pressure is held by the wood and glue joinery. We achieve this with a continuous wall thickness of 1/2 inches, which is meaty and robust for hollow wooden boards in general, but this meaty robustness allows the wood to do all the work with ease. its not too heavy either, not super lightweight but a healthy 14 lbs as of now, but since improvements are being made and chambering has been maximized these kit blanks should get to around 12 lbs for a board less than 6 ft.

    im not sure what you mean by dowels? I used dowels in my first fish blank during the jig laminating stages but its since been eliminated. What is hess doing with dowels?
     
  7. EmassSpicoli

    EmassSpicoli Well-Known Member

    Apr 16, 2013
    Looks like he's got two that go in the middle from rail to rail as framing of sorts. To me they look like dowels. You board cobblers may call then different.

    So you find the proper air level and then that's permanently sealed at the time of coating the board with oil or resin? Or does it remain adjustable? Have you experimented with filling these boards with helium or Noz?
     
  8. Valhallalla

    Valhallalla Well-Known Member

    Jan 24, 2013
    Emass, I think you are misunderstanding the purpose of pumping air into the board. Charles is pressuizing the cavity of the board to check for any leaks in the seams or the wood itself. Since the air inside the hollow boards will expand and contract with heating and cooling, they are normally equipped with a removable plug that can be opened to equalize the pressure to atmospheric. Charles is just adding a fitting to the plug to allow air to be pumped in for pressure testing.

    Your idea to try other gasses in the board is interesting though. It might alter the buoyancy or other characteristics of the board. But I'm no rocket surgeon and have no idea whether there would be enough volume to have any effect or if it is good to have any significant pressure within the board.

    BTW, Charles, these look pretty cool. Do you intend on eventually offering fully shaped and finished boards? Your site doesn't mention any pricing. Where do you expect that to be? Hopefully, south of six figures!
     
  9. leetymike808

    leetymike808 Well-Known Member

    752
    Nov 16, 2013
    Im serious Charles if you wana ship a fish, or fish blank i guess, out here to maui. I'd ride the crap outta it.
     
  10. EmassSpicoli

    EmassSpicoli Well-Known Member

    Apr 16, 2013
    Guys I was kidding about the helium and Noz...
     
  11. yankee

    yankee Well-Known Member

    Sep 26, 2008
    I'm calling BS here. All we've heard is how awesome these planks are from you, the North American gnome incarnate. And that's just not gonna get it, chucka-boo-boo.

    The onliest way that these planks are ever going to gain credibility is by having OTHER surfers ride them, chucka-boo-boo. I'm calling BS because it's you, and only you, that's saying how thrilling & performance-oriented these planks are. Yet, for all we know, these things are wall hangers that could be utilized in a pinch for fuel when TSHTF.

    All you've done is taken a page from your da-da's gnome enlightenment 3-page user's manual, created a website & now, by your own admission, you're going to start selling these to unsuspecting narwhal hunters.

    No.

    GIVE, that's right, GIVE one of these planks to Emass or SISurfer or Chavy or, heaven forbid, GitCarter and Sandblasters, and let them surf that plywood. Then they file a test report. If your product is any decent, it will hold its own. And, you'll sell even more of the things. IF it's any decent. If you have large cojones, give one to Randy Rarick to test out & then have RR file a video review.

    Are you up to it, boo-boo? Or do you take the path of gnome resistance, i.e., claiming product superiority without a shred of proof other than your own yapping?
     
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  12. leetymike808

    leetymike808 Well-Known Member

    752
    Nov 16, 2013
    Ummm Yank i'd much rather prefer if he's giving any one any thing it'd be to me.

    But i guess thats my own personal bias....
     
  13. yankee

    yankee Well-Known Member

    Sep 26, 2008
    And give one of those test drivers to LeetyMike, boo-boo. Don't know how I omitted him from the list.
     
  14. Cuck Taylor

    Cuck Taylor Well-Known Member

    853
    Jul 6, 2013
    yankee this is very interesting post you have provided me, thank you.

    the blanks are literally copy cat shapes of existing boards, i merely translate and slightly alter these features such as thickness distribution and outline then morph it into a close tolerance pre chambered blank that is supposed to enable a whole new market of people to see shaping as feasible but also get more wooden products to market simultaneously. this is achieved by having good products that are priced well and some good marketing.

    the fish blank if finished well, will be a excellent performer. the word so far from friends who use it are happy and certainly entertained more importantly.

    thank you yankee for the interest.

    please email :thedude@hwsblanks.com for some more info

    also make sure to like on Facebook
     
  15. leetymike808

    leetymike808 Well-Known Member

    752
    Nov 16, 2013
    is it thedude@ or dude@

    Cause if its free its for me!
     
  16. EmassSpicoli

    EmassSpicoli Well-Known Member

    Apr 16, 2013
    Yeah, you heard yankee. ante up a stick for Spicoli. I'll take a retro fish. Honest and open-minded review promised and you know the stoke this guy has for his quiver. I love my 5-10 retro fish and ready to rip one that reeks of rich mahogany.
     
  17. leetymike808

    leetymike808 Well-Known Member

    752
    Nov 16, 2013
    well i liked the hws facebook....charles im expecting big things brah, big things.
     
  18. brewengineer

    brewengineer Well-Known Member

    Jun 22, 2011
    I believe it's spelled Nawwwwwwzzzz!!1!
     
  19. brewengineer

    brewengineer Well-Known Member

    Jun 22, 2011
    If you want to send one to the SC crew, we could pass it around and give you feedback. Zach, blaster, Clemson, and I all live relatively close to each other. If it works in our conditions, it should fare well on any East Coast break.
     
  20. yankee

    yankee Well-Known Member

    Sep 26, 2008
    I like Brew's idea of the test committee.

    Remember back a few years ago when Austin Saunders (he of Austin Surfboards) made a board specifically meant to be passed around the nation from one surfer to another, so that all could enjoy the stoke of a hand-shaped board? I spoke to Austin the other day & he told me that as far as he knows, that board is still making the rounds, spreading the stoke.

    You could try something like that, boo-boo, instead of regaling us with tales on this digitized dark side.

    Here's the test committee that I believe would do you justice, and fairness, and provide you with insights & input for improving your product:

    Start in the mid-Atlantic with KokiBarrels, Mitchell & Lee. Lee is an actual engineer, btw, and Mitchell is one helluva good shaper himself. if you swing through VB, let the 757 college kid have a romp on that stick. Get the youth market cornered.

    From there, your journey takes you south to the land o' the rebel yell. Definitely start with Brewengineer, if only because not only will you receive massive engineering tips but you will be able to drink his ales & potions after the test drives. Get TloKlein on that plankin' thing & Zach, too, while you're out there.

    Issue the call to ride to SIsurfdogg & DawnPatrolSUP - - they will give you precious feedback from their crystal waters. If you have the stones for it, you also put on your body armor & holler for Carter and Sandblasters to come trotting up the beach with that malevolent gleam in their eyes as they spot the plywood.

    All of a sudden, it's time for you to head back north. You pull a 75 foot 180 degree u-turn with that plank on its trailer & plow northward. You stop to round up NYNJ, Chavy & maybe Pumpmaster if he's not busy at the target range that day. Jersey Boyz be rockin' that boo-boo lumber & you'll receive a ton of feedback there.

    You finish your trek where you began, but not before enjoying a few fresh, cold Narragansetts with Seldom Seen & Emass. The voluminous ride report from Emass will likely blow up this entire Forum, but it's a sacrifice that must be made.

    Finally.....the ultimate test.....yes.....you must carefully wrap whatever is remaining of your plankin' board, box it up and ship it to the buoys out west. Yep. There's no way that you could ever consider your board complete without the feet of MIS & Gaffer dancing on that lumber in the better (and bigger!) waves of the left coast, and maybe even Hawaii.

    So there you go, chucka-boo-boo: your blueprint for success. And I'm not even going to send you an invoice for my time.
     
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