Carver quiver (Or other surf trainers)

Discussion in 'All Discussions' started by ClemsonSurf, Mar 3, 2014.

  1. mrcoop

    mrcoop Well-Known Member

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    Jun 22, 2010
    I have been doing some minor grinding...no problems with trucks yet. Skated at night only to realize I was skating the board backwards...not good. Been thinking about pulling out my sons orange tangs and swapping them out on the carver. What makes wheel go faster? Bearings or wheels or combo of both. Hearing some noise in one of my bearings. May switch out a new set of bearings...any suggestions for bearings?
     
  2. LoganV

    LoganV Member

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    Apr 20, 2014
    The whole system affects the speed. Appropriate wheels for the surface. Good, clean well lubricated bearings. Fitting spacers. Speed rings on the inside and outside of the wheel.

    Considering bearings here's some good info:
    http://www.silverfishlongboarding.com/forum/longboard-skateboarding-wheels-bearings/16564-how-clean-maintain-your-bearings.html
    http://wiki.silverfishlongboarding.com//Bearing_Information_and_FAQs
    http://www.skateboard-city.com/messageboard/showthread.php?t=20761


    I tend to geek out on technical details but in the end i decided that most half decent bearings probably do the job as long as you maintain them (rubber shields on one side is a must for me).

    I tend to ride them till they make sounds and then clean them with Bones cleaning unit and 97% alcohol and then relube with Bones Speed Cream.

    At the moment i ride:
    SKF bearings with metal shields on one side and red rubber shields on the other and metal ball cages (really durable, have been riding them for years)
    Bones Reds which have a rubber shield on one side and are unshielded on the other with nylon ball cages (just recently started riding them)

    One could argue that Boned are easier to clean but also are more open to dirt on the inside.
    Still undecided if prefer metal or nylon ball cages. Also one of the Bones Reds bearings started to make sounds and didn't work properly anymore after a couple hours of riding. After cleaning and relubing it was fine though. Let's see how they do in the long term.

    The Carver guys seem to favor metal cages:
    https://carverskateboards.myshopify.com/collections/parts/products/carver-abec-7-red-oiled-double-shield-bearings

    Double rubber shields are nice as well. Has anybody tried the carver bearings?
     

  3. Mad Atom

    Mad Atom Well-Known Member

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    Jul 16, 2013
    Dudes, I'm assuming these are way less cool than Carvers, but what's up with these RipStick contraptions? My niece got one for her b-day yesterday and within 10 mins I was riding that bad boy. It was fun! And $50...
     
  4. ClemsonSurf

    ClemsonSurf Well-Known Member

    Dec 10, 2007
    They're the boogieboards of carvers.
     
  5. Mad Atom

    Mad Atom Well-Known Member

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    Jul 16, 2013
    Ok, good. I'm an uncoordinated and overweight 12 year-old from a land-locked state, so that's perfect.

    I'm kidding, spongers. You're all okay in my book, and probably Wayne's book too. See ya in the shore pound.
     
  6. cepriano

    cepriano Well-Known Member

    Apr 20, 2012
    does the longboard skateboard/carver or whatever u call them really help ur surfing?i skated before I surfed,a traditional skateboard where u do kickflips and such.dont really think it helped me,but it does help learn how to pump down the line and gain speed.i like to run up broken trees in the woods above cliffs,helps with ur balance and to not panic.commitment is key.even if u think something bad will happen just go for it and ya might make it
     
  7. EmassSpicoli

    EmassSpicoli Well-Known Member

    Apr 16, 2013
    cep - of course it (Carver) helps our surfing. Greatly. We say it all the time here. We also say that it's a different world from longboarding and skateboarding. Not even close. Get a Carver bruh. Join the brigade.

    Oh and if you're talking about parkour, I love that stuff and definitely feel it doesn't hurt surfing or balance etc.
     
  8. mrcoop

    mrcoop Well-Known Member

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    Jun 22, 2010
    Skateboarding and carver are two different feeling animals. Carvers really aren't made for doing crazy tricks like a regular skate and a regular skate can't carve or give you that surfing feel you get from a carver. They just feel totally different.
     
  9. OldSoul

    OldSoul Well-Known Member

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    Nov 7, 2011
    Yea I had these wheels from my other long board (tan tien... dosent get any love these days lol) I need to llok into new wheels soon, any suggestions? I like some grip since I can slide the tail out whenever and dont really need super hard wheels.

    What I did was take a socket that was big enough to allow the head of the bolt to pass through it and put it over the head and into a vice. Then I used the vice to crank down on the broken end of the bolt, but the pressure would be on the socket and not the bolt head- allowing the bolt to be pushed out. Probably making sound way more complicated than it was, but it actually came to me in a dream. I realized i could have just bought a replacement but I just so happened to have the PERFECT matching bolt so it all worked out. To make sure the bolt was in tight I did the same process but switched the socket to the other side.
     
  10. OldSoul

    OldSoul Well-Known Member

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    Nov 7, 2011
    I tested out a carver resin with the CX truck, it was like a hybrid.. Had the surf feel but a little firmer and it was a standard looking truck. Could be the next pavement purchase to swap with the C7 every now and then.
     
  11. EmassSpicoli

    EmassSpicoli Well-Known Member

    Apr 16, 2013
    Try loosening up the nut. Whole new ball game.
     
  12. RIsurfer

    RIsurfer Well-Known Member

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    Dec 5, 2012
    Oh ya I got meself one o them too. They are the boogies of carvers. Once I got a longboard, the thing started collecting cobwebs.
     
  13. EmassSpicoli

    EmassSpicoli Well-Known Member

    Apr 16, 2013
    Grommet, this is a Carver thread. Get a Carver then post with us bout Carvers.
     
  14. LoganV

    LoganV Member

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    Apr 20, 2014
    Depends on the surface you wanna ride on. Like i wrote the standard 78a Carver wheels worked great for me for streets. In the park on relatively smooth terrain i prefer my Divine 92a 60mm wheels and might even try some harder ones in the future.
    If you're in the States and want something 85a and up take a look at Rainskates. They have loads of different durometers available in different sizes and shapes. Read really good stuff about them at the silverfishlongboarding forum. http://www.rainskateswheels.com/RSwheels.html
    Those Divine wheels look good as wheel as an allround wheel:https://www.muirskate.com/longboard/wheels/15091/64mm-Divine-City-Slashers-Longboard-Skateboard-Wheels.html

    Thanks, great idea and description.
     
    Last edited: Apr 23, 2014
  15. EmassSpicoli

    EmassSpicoli Well-Known Member

    Apr 16, 2013
    Logan, I've been riding PP Bombers 64mm 85a in the bowls at the park with good success. So, so much slidier than the stock Carver Roundhouses but I can board slide and tail slide the bag outta those stocks with great success too and they do great in the pool too. Been experimenting with Bones SPF Skatetopia wheels too and those are hard as fark and sliiiiiidddeee.

    Problem is, as you know, harder the wheel the less carve. I like the grip for power production even in the pools and bowls. I find that if I'm not pumping much even when I have good speed then it all feels more skatey and less surfy. Drop-in needed to get speed without pumping.

    Round lip vs. square lip is huge when it comes to slide, control, and grip as variables. Not many people talk about that but it matters a ton.
     
  16. OldSoul

    OldSoul Well-Known Member

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    Nov 7, 2011
    I like these rainskate wheels.. Now im trying to figure out what set up will be best for me. I loved the 78a roundhouse but they got to coning on me bad. Now Im on the o-tang 83a durians which are fun but wearing out and I realize they are 10mm larger then the roundhouse; you guys are running wheels in the 64mm range? Both the roundhouse and the otangs had the square lip.. these rain skates seemed to be beveled, some double beveled.. (yellow hornets) but I am skeptical on that hard of a duro when it comes to maximum pumpage.. i need some guidance here.
     
  17. Mad Atom

    Mad Atom Well-Known Member

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    Jul 16, 2013
  18. EmassSpicoli

    EmassSpicoli Well-Known Member

    Apr 16, 2013
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    Unreal doc and I watch it regularly.
     
  19. Slashdog

    Slashdog Well-Known Member

    May 22, 2012
    When I was younger, my friend worked at Blockbuster.

    He stole 'Dogtown' for me and got fired.

    Pre-digital piracy at it's best...

    I never watched it.

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  20. EmassSpicoli

    EmassSpicoli Well-Known Member

    Apr 16, 2013
    You gave no thanks to your bro who sacrificed min wage for you. Lost out on seeing an all-time flick too. Crap, chicks even dig that movie so you could've watched it with a wahine.