Got a chance to work with the Wounded Warrior Project yesterday at Wrightsville teaching Vets to surf, Had an absolute blast. Such a positive group and absolutely fearless, the woman I helped had never seen the ocean before...talk about stoke after her first stand up. Made me think of being a kid again. If you get the chance do some volunteer work, its good for you. Trust Me, I haven't been that stoked to be in thigh high waves in a long time.
heres where everyone is going to think I a giant @$$hole these guys decided to be murderers for hire and then they became maimed physically and psychologically? This cant be a surprising result of becoming a murderer wars aren't about freedom, they are about corporate profit, (no matter what you tell yourself) so when you fight and kill to make money for yourself and others, obviously the results will be bad sucks these guys are hurt, but this was their choice. And a poor one at that
you don't have to agree w/ why they made the choices they did to agree that WWP is a great organization. leave politics out of it.
nothing to do with politics, everything to do with morality. if you think killing people for money is acceptable, you are the one that has to face the mirror. good luck. I wonder how these guys sleep at night?
many of them don't, including a good friend of mine. that's the whole point of the WWP. ever heard the phrase, "support the troops but not the war"? you may not think so, but it is possible to want the best for the troops while disagreeing w/ why they do what they do. is it morally right to allow vets to kill themselves, or wallow in alcoholism or drug abuse after they serve?
didn't think of it like that, thanks for heads up. it would be great if wwp started a campaign to talk others from joining, then that would be legit there wouldn't a war if troops decided NO and did something else beside enlisting. everyone has a choice
some of my cousins are marines, my great uncles one both sides were in WW2, both grandfathers (Normandy/Philippines), doesn't mean I buy the BS
Good job, Blackfish. You're a doer and a contributor, one of those who helps make the world a better place - particularly for those who sacrificed a lot and continue to suffer from it. I don't necessarily buy into all the politics, but I do believe in supporting our troops.
The woman I was helping joined because she wanted more than Missouri, a college degree in fact. She didn't join to be in the infantry, she worked logistics and her convoy got blown by an IED and wound up with a TBI and PTSD. Did she get what she deserved? We spent a great deal of time discussing what it was like the first time that both of us got shot at and how surreal it was, it was cathartic not just for her but for me too. These are people who need help and while I don't agree with war, helping somebody experience joy even for a minute, doesn't make you a war sympathizer it makes you a human being.
Perhaps this better belongs in last week's "Books" thread, but read Matt Craw's (a fellow Forum member) "The Song Each Bullet Sings" to get an enlisted Marine's perspective on the war in Iraq following 9/11. Matt and others, including Pat Tillman of the Arizona Cardinals, joined the military in response to 9/11. They felt it a duty to do so, much like others did following the attack on Pearl Harbor in 1941. These guys and gals aren't "murderers" or "baby killers", they are patriots and many are heros.
never mind that babies died, they are HEROES /sarc off god you guys are brainwashed kooks Pat tillman was killed by friendly fire AND THEY COVERED IT UP what does it take to wake you up, a 2x4 to the head?
we have to kill the babies to grind their little bodies into oil its ok though as long as we have hundred dollar bills to wipe the sweat away no thx on the 2x4 tho
Make it stop, are you serious or just messing around? At family reunions do you call your cousins and grandfathers murderers for hire? Or just insult faceless veterans from the security of your keyboard? If you met me on the street would you call me a murderer? Wonder how that would work out .
dude, MIS, we had a nice exchange earlier in the thread. there's a time & a place for the discussion you clearly want to have & this is NOT it.
So you will protect my right for free speech, until I say something you dont like? you do realize that is retarded, right? My family knows how I feel about war and murder did you kill anyone? if you did you are a murderer, if you dont like that label, maybe you shouldn't have joined a gang of professional killers? so nj42 when and where is the discussion to be had? in sanctioned off area like a free speech zone? If you kill people for money or facilitate murder by assisting in anyway you are MORALLY BANKRUPT