Kooks fighting in Malibu

Discussion in 'All Discussions' started by ihatelongboarders, Oct 21, 2014.

  1. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    For some it's survival, the difference between eating or not, don't wanna stand between a man and his only shot at a meal, unless you too are that hungry or that talented. Definitely not a game
     
  2. WopWop77

    WopWop77 Active Member

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    Jan 8, 2012

  3. CDsurf

    CDsurf Well-Known Member

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    May 10, 2014
    What a silly generalization. Have you been to Hawaii? Surfing and MMA/Jiu Jitsu seem to be a lifestyle all in one. I would fear a fellow surfer before I would fear some random dude on the street.
     
  4. JawnDoeski

    JawnDoeski Well-Known Member

    Aug 11, 2014
    You should try walking the streets of Philly or Camden for that matter it might change your opinion...
     
  5. seldom seen

    seldom seen Well-Known Member

    Aug 21, 2012
    I do miss training. I used to get the same sense of accomplishment that I do from a solid session. But I just don't have the time to do it formally anymore, and if I'm going to commit my life to one pursuit, i have to choose waves. Soul food. Although I still work some Muay Thai and basic subs(only a few you really need imo).
     
  6. Ryan McCall

    Ryan McCall Well-Known Member

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    Aug 10, 2014
    Don't commit your life to just one thing seldom. Find the time!
     
  7. seldom seen

    seldom seen Well-Known Member

    Aug 21, 2012
    I gots to find the time to get to Wisconsin or Idaho homie, where I can apply what I've learned in the past;).
     
  8. nynj

    nynj Well-Known Member

    Jul 27, 2012
    If you beat him for the win, doesn't that mean he came in 2nd? That's not too bad is it? If he was that bad how did he get 2nd?
    Everyone loses at some point. Even the baddest dudes.
     
  9. Tlokein

    Tlokein Well-Known Member

    Oct 12, 2012
    Spot on yank. The steroid raging tatted up guys are always the easiest to deal with. They never figure out all those muscles don't do a dam thing for their chin. And if you've never been punched in the face before it can be quite disturbing. And to be able to get punched in the face and still keep your wits and keep fighting...that takes experience.

    You can usually size a guy up just by his stance and the way he carries himself. Guys like Chuckles standing flat-footed with their chest puffed and chin sticking out are meat on a stick. Guy gets the weight on that rear leg and takes an angle has prob had some training in kicking, whether its karate\TKD\etc...Guy has a an angle, heavy front foot and cauliflower ears and you best be looking for him to shoot a single or double.

    But these guys are rarely ever the ones who start the beef. Its usually over confident shriveled nuts steroid boy freaking out b/c he's afraid a real man's gonna take away his woman. Then he messes with the nerdy looking skinny kid who looks like an easy target but instead is a jiu-jitsu ace and starts ripping his limbs apart before choking him unconscious.

    I've known some truly bad mofos over the years. I hate backing down from a fight but would not mess with these guys ever. Combat vets who've killed guys up close and personal. Real martial artists who are mild mannered middle aged Dads but who can f you up ten ways to Sunday w\o breaking a sweat. And they all have the same thing in common, they never feel the need to tell everyone what a bada$$ they are. They just are.

    The chest thumpers are always the first to get their a$Ses handed to them and end up crying like lil b*tch in the corner.
     
  10. Tlokein

    Tlokein Well-Known Member

    Oct 12, 2012
    True, true.

    But some places will promote people if they can do the kata or whatever but they are terrible at applying it in real life. You can have two people at an advanced belt and one can really f you up and the other can't fight their way out of wet paper bag. They can be a good at point fighting too but terrible when the real stuff starts flying.

    Training is never a bad thing unless it gives you a false sense of how bad a$$ you are. But its not a guarantee that you are a bad a$$, no matter what belt/etc. you have.
     
  11. yankee

    yankee Well-Known Member

    Sep 26, 2008
    Absolutely on all points, TLO. Your comment about the quiet guys: some buddies are SEALs down there in Dam Neck. No one would know that they've been on the most major ops anyone could possible conceive of & can snatch the life outta anyone in split seconds. Quiet dudes, not roided up, they aren't even physically imposing.

    By contrast, this is why braying tough guy donkeys like michellejunior and chucka-boo-boo are total assclowns.
     
  12. Peajay4060

    Peajay4060 Well-Known Member

    Nov 14, 2011
    so in the malibu fight, the dude in the hat is giving the bald guy **** becuase he was drowning the long haired guy.

    real question here. Is that not allowed or something? seemed to work it stopping the guy from throwing punches. thats what id want to stop happening, gettting punched in the face sucks real bad.

    hope i never have to get in a fight ever again but whenever i did i fought dirty. im not a big dude.
     
  13. salt

    salt Well-Known Member

    Mar 9, 2010
    grab hair, kick nuts, drowning, pick up something and smash person, sand/dirt thrown in face (a la Rick Kane fight against Da Hui). these are all acceptable tactics. i am not a trained fighter,nor someone who has been in many fights at all (i can count em all on one hand). however, all is fair unless it's in a ring with a referee (and that's still questionable). better yet, shrug it off. so not worth it. fighting is for complete knuckleheads.
     
  14. CDsurf

    CDsurf Well-Known Member

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    May 10, 2014
    no, actually it wouldn't change my opinion.
     
  15. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    If you're not first, you're last haha
     
  16. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    What does Hawaii have to do with it? BJ Penn is the best fighter to come out of there and I saw him quit on the stool because GSP a Canadian broke his will, other than BJ there is nobody. Don't act like Hawaii is some fighting Mecca dude. BJJ is BRAZILIAN Jitz, not Hawaiin. And just so you know, BJJ is being taught all over tbe world, nothng special. Doesn't matter though, you gotta get the dude on the ground to be a threat anyways. Unless you know how to throw hands and wrestle it's worthless.
     
  17. McLovin

    McLovin Well-Known Member

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    Jun 27, 2010
    Yep it's real. See how when the guy got in between and said, "Just walk away", and the two guys actually did walk away? Asians!
     
  18. CDsurf

    CDsurf Well-Known Member

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    May 10, 2014
    You are joking me right? I never said it was a mecca. All those guys do there is train bjj and surf. It is very popular over there in the surf culture. Also, you are comparing BJ Penn to an average trained bjj or MMA fighter? That is totally irrelevant. If you train bjj for more than 6 months consistently with a good school you will have a HUGE advantage against one of the guys shown in the video. A blue belt level guy in good shape would have ended that fight very quickly just by knowing basic throws/takedowns and dominant positions, not even needing submissions. I agree with you on the wrestling part because wrestling is super important but saying that bjj is useless is really ignorant.

    Also i would take a bjj guy over a pro boxer any day of the week. just knowing how to throw hands without having grappling experience is not going to work out too well for you. Do you know how easy it is to take someone down who cant defend takedowns?
     
  19. JawnDoeski

    JawnDoeski Well-Known Member

    Aug 11, 2014
    Chyeah right dude! Your from brick you ain't ever walk the streets of real North Philadelphia if you had you wouldn't be so arrogant. Your tap out shirts and mma won't save you in the badlands...
     
  20. seldom seen

    seldom seen Well-Known Member

    Aug 21, 2012
    Whoa I just gotta step in here for a second...not being inflammatory, but in one on one hand to hand combat, BJJ > everything else. Hands down. Average blue belt will destroy anybody with no training, most people with equivalent time spent training anything else.

    Look at a boxing match. How many times do they clinch before a knockout punch is landed, usually many many times. Each one of those clinches would have ended on the ground if it was on the street. And these are the best trained punchers in the world. True knock outs are not that common.

    And what we take from wrestling is basically singles, doubles, and sprawls, all of which are super important, and have roots in traditional Jiu Jitsu anyway.


    That being said, of course it is great to supplement BJJ w/ some form of striking and training wrestling techniques.

    Ok you guys get back at it.