It was only a matter of time-NSR

Discussion in 'All Discussions' started by seldom seen, Oct 22, 2014.

  1. pkovo

    pkovo Well-Known Member

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    Jun 7, 2010
    So the cop was saying some EXTREMELY ignorant sh*t?
     
  2. Ryan McCall

    Ryan McCall Well-Known Member

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    Aug 10, 2014
    haha @ postman trained to deal with dogs. The USPS will send you a notice saying they wont deliver to your house because your dog acts aggressive. Been there done that. As for the cop situation, I agree with the rambo comment for sure. I also agree with cops having to pull their firearm in a situation where a dog could attack. Whats behind the dog? 99 percent of the time you show up to a house and its someone willing to work with police, 1 percent of the time a nutcase is looking for trouble. Dog runs out the front door, take the chance and dont react with force putting your life in danger, or cover your ass if benny the town schizo is on a break and looking for blood?

    Once again, I dont agree with shooting the dog, and I feel that way too many times people have a fear of animals that makes them act a fool. But in a situation where a cop responds to a call where the only consistent is unknown, drawing a weapon could be the only thing saving your life
     

  3. zach619

    zach619 Well-Known Member

    Jan 21, 2009
    This topic is a definitely a two sided one. In most major cities, stash houses and gang houses are almost always filled with "attack dogs" trained to attack anything that comes near it. There are so many irresponsible pet owners these days and they are usually in shady circumstances. When I lived in downtown Baltimore, I had a pitbull mix. Not even full bred and everytime I would walk him around the neighborhood, I would have the local gangsters standing on their open air drug corners and they would always pet my dog, talk about how pretty he was and then say, Yo, you should bring him by the spot, see how he can stand up to my "dugs". I would just say, no man, thats not for me... and walk off. They meant nothing by it, it is just a cultural thing. So, as a Baltimore police officer, it is all too common to respond to a "shots fired" call or some crazy circumstance, that the first thing you are up against is a wild pitt snapping, waiting to shred them. Sure, a simple taze should suffice, but it's just a sad situation. The cop in Baltimore that slit the dogs throat in front of a bunch of kids should be locked up for life, just for being a pyscho, but again, that situation was a grey area, as the call that went into the cops was that a dog was loose and it bit someone.

    I love dogs. I love all animals. It's mostly people that I hate. Not all, but the scum bags who put a innocent dog's life in danger every day for their own self serving purposes. And I won't even get into the "cops suck" conversation because that never ends well on SI, but I think people really fail to understand what it is like to be a cop in a lot of places on a daily basis.

    The cop that used to run the cross walks in front of Camden Yards used to come into my place of business and was a bar regular. He told us crazy stories. He was actually shot in his leg and arm one day on a drug raid at a house up on 33rd street. They were executing a search warrant on a stash house. They were about 15 deep, had the shield up and full on riot gear. When the guy in the house saw them coming, he went o the upstairs window and unloaded a whole clip at the cops. I think he hit 2 of them, nothing fatal, but he shot numerous cops. When he went to court, he ended up getting time for the drugs, but he got off on all charges, because he used his own, legal registered gun and said that although the cops were in uniform, they never announced themselves because they had not gotten to the door yet. The guy said that he thought he was under attack from a rival drug gang because all he saw were guns and a lot of people on his property.... I am just telling that story, cause the cop told me this and he took two bullets that day.... This is just another day in the life of an inner city police officer in the US.... So, I give them all a little benefit of a doubt, because every single day, their life is on the line and sometimes, human life has to go ahead of pets... Its just a shame when they don't try and save both parties.....

    Hopefully anyone following the Ferguson case saw the forensics that came out Saturday.... Interesting how every piece of evidence is backing up the officer there. It is going to be ground zero when they don't indict him. They are just slowly releasing the info to try and ease their way into it.... It's just another case of people jumping to conclusions because a cop was involved. People like to forget about the issues at hand.
     
  4. nynj

    nynj Well-Known Member

    Jul 27, 2012
    Not taking a side, because I don't (nor does anyone on here) know all the facts. Sad situation for everyone involved.
    But didn't the cop go for a non-lethal option?
     
  5. seldom seen

    seldom seen Well-Known Member

    Aug 21, 2012
    Yup, according to the links he pulled a stun gun(not sure if that means taser/cattle prod/or what).
     
  6. zach619

    zach619 Well-Known Member

    Jan 21, 2009
    Yeah in this instance, it sounds like this cop was doing everything that citizens like us would have hoped he would do. And then this guy blows his head off from behind. It's a shame to see a good man (on the surface) lose his life in the line of duty dealing with the scums that lurks around too many corners. This guy probably had a family. Maybe kids. Whatever. Goes to work one day and never comes home. All while trying to keep people safe. And when the guy shows up, he shows restraint, mercy with the animal and then he loses his life. This situation is a clear example of why so many other cops don't take the same steps. They come in guns blazing expecting the worst.

    If this guy was one of the cops from the other stories in this thread, the dogs would have been shot dead in the yard and the crazy guy with a shotgun would have had a chest full of bullets before he could even raise his gun.

    People are crazy man.... They really are.
     
  7. headrow

    headrow Well-Known Member

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    Sep 2, 2007
    Sure, what I say may sound ignorant. Fine. But when a police officer is downright giddy when he mentions that he wants to shoot the dog - he is a POS. Period. I live in white suburbia. The cops around here don't deal with having their life threatened on a daily basis. Plus, I just so happen to live in a precinct that has known/prosecuted corruption. From the top down. And I've had my experience with being arrested using false information and lies. And I've been treated rudely by the local cops for simply asking questions. My brother had be violently robbed and what do the cops do about it? Nothing.

    If that's not enough, I used to be a court reporter in the Grand Jury in Washington DC. I've had plenty of conversations with police officers, candid conversations because they considered me as "on their side." And one of the DC investigators made the claim himself "90% of DC cops are lazy POS".

    Finally, I used to play poker in a community league and most of those guys were cops. One of them pulled out their gun and layed it on the table during a hand he was playing - as a form of intimidation.

    So, yes, thanks. Out of all my experiences with police officers, almost ZERO of my experiences have been positive. The only time was when I was pulled over at 2am on my way home from playing some poker (I was pulled over because one of my fog lights was out - both my headlight were fine) But this guy appreciated that I turned on my overhead light so he could see me fully in my car. He just gave me a warning for the foglight and told me to get it fixed.

    So there you have it. F the police.
     
  8. AndrewIfallalot

    AndrewIfallalot Well-Known Member

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    Aug 24, 2012
  9. nynj

    nynj Well-Known Member

    Jul 27, 2012
    Did you read the article? He knocked on the door. He didn't enter. He didn't have his hand on his gun.

    So your uncle AND cousin are pu$$ies?
     
  10. The Incorrigible Steel Burrito VII

    The Incorrigible Steel Burrito VII Well-Known Member

    Oct 19, 2014
    Putting the ethical discussion of militarized cop mentality aside:

    I loved my last dog something fierce. If a cop shot my dog and killed her I would systematically kill his loved ones one by one and then leave him paralyzed from the neck down. If I thought she was in danger and someone pointed a shooting-tazing device of any kind at her I probably would've seen red. Lucky for the universe she died of cancer and I didn't have to shoot anybody :)

    But getting to the root of the problem--- not asking if the shooter was right or wrong, not asking if the cop pulled his tazer out too soon, but digging deeper and asking a bigger question: why was the cop there in the first place? A domestic violence call. What we need to ask ourselves is, do we really want to live in a society where domestic violence is considered a crime? (Admittedly tasteless)

    All kidding aside, on some Michael Jackson man in the mirror trip, if we all agree not to beat our wives, not to become cops, not to taze dogs, or not to shoot people... this could've been prevented.
     
  11. zach619

    zach619 Well-Known Member

    Jan 21, 2009
    I may have misread it, but it was a "domestic disturbance" and I think they were saying the guy had an altercation with his neighbor. So, some of the initial responses to this were "Cops are allowed to respond to domestic violence calls and entry a property without a warrant"... This was a dispute between neighbors, so I don't know how that works since both individuals were back in their own homes and obviously not a threat.
     
  12. nynj

    nynj Well-Known Member

    Jul 27, 2012
    I would also shoot someone to prevent them from shooting my dog. My dog was my best friend and would attack anyone that tried to harm me as well...
    That is why I would NEVER set him loose on someone I know is armed.

    Like I said earlier, we don't know what really happened. But from what I read the guy in jail seems like he was wrong. Maybe not 1st degree murder wrong, but wrong
     
  13. yankee

    yankee Well-Known Member

    Sep 26, 2008
    word
     
  14. chicharronne

    chicharronne Well-Known Member

    Jun 22, 2006
    "Piggies are gwine to be Piggies". I think Mark Twain said that. Fuggin bastids get away with shooting kids because they're skeert. We're a nation of chicken schitt pooswah.
     
  15. seldom seen

    seldom seen Well-Known Member

    Aug 21, 2012
    Now this one's a little more clear cut...

    ..and I can say without a shadow of a doubt that I would cap this dude in the front or back of the head, and sleep damn fine afterwards.

    His name is Kevin Dupre and there's a petition going around calling for his termination. Video's about halfway down the page, he lures the puppy closer with kissy noises before he shoots it.

    I wouldn't want to shoot this guy. I'd want to systematically break him down with my hands, then bleed him out slow. And take his scalp while he's still living...

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2804652/Texas-cop-triggered-outrage-shot-family-s-tail-wagging-dog-receives-death-threats.html
     
  16. nynj

    nynj Well-Known Member

    Jul 27, 2012
    That is fuc*ing awful... How could they have released that video? Did they think people would see it and think he did the right thing?
     
  17. LazyE

    LazyE Well-Known Member

    Aug 6, 2014
    At a neighborhood meeting years ago a police man asked a young man why he wouldn't rat on the people selling drugs. The kid responded "for the same reason ya'll don't rat on crooked cops".