Rotator cuff

Discussion in 'All Discussions' started by JohnnyUtah, Nov 13, 2014.

  1. JohnnyUtah

    JohnnyUtah Well-Known Member

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    Sep 26, 2008
    So I'm nursing a 50% tear in my right RT. Got a MRI done and took it to 3 Orthopedic surgeons --2 out of 3 recommend physical therapy instead of surgery so I'm going down that road and it seems to be helping. If all goes as planned I should be in the chilly Jersey waters by late December.
    Does anyone have a similar injury, story, advise? I'm a year round surfer and are concerned that I may be just delaying the enviable total rupture...
     
  2. metard

    metard Well-Known Member

    Mar 11, 2014

  3. metard

    metard Well-Known Member

    Mar 11, 2014
    think i might have to go to the orthopedist too
     
  4. JohnnyUtah

    JohnnyUtah Well-Known Member

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    Sep 26, 2008
    Getting multiple opinions is key--the 1st guy wanted to drag me into surgery the next day..
     
  5. huuor

    huuor Well-Known Member

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    Mar 29, 2012
    I had some rotator cuff pain earlier in the year so started paying attention to this condition.

    Check out this link. Bit of a pretty boy but he seems to know his stuff...

    http://surfstrengthcoach.com/surf-shoulders-rotator-cuff-training/

    Oh and ignore the arrogant medical industry and their knife-welding, drug pushing ways.
    Diet and specific exercise can cure 99.9% of health problems.

    Trust me.
    (even though I'm not a doctor)
     
  6. The Incorrigible Steel Burrito VII

    The Incorrigible Steel Burrito VII Well-Known Member

    Oct 19, 2014
    Partial tear for a while now. Masturbating builds up the secondary muscles.
     
  7. matt_mcq

    matt_mcq Member

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    Oct 26, 2013
    my dad tore both of his and had surgery right away. 4 years later and he still is only 60% better, if that.. Surgery can't be undone and gives you arthritis. I would stick with PT if you can.
     
  8. The Incorrigible Steel Burrito VII

    The Incorrigible Steel Burrito VII Well-Known Member

    Oct 19, 2014
    My third hand knowledge of this is that if you aren't a pt wizard then the surgery was wasted. I hear it stiffens up and gets gnarly.
     
  9. zrich

    zrich Well-Known Member

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    Aug 22, 2011
    I partially tore a tendon in my upper triceps about 2 yrs ago and was able to recover pretty well with PT. I was out of the water for about 8 weeks but was able to start swimming slowly after about 6. My tear was pretty small but before PT I could not paddle with any power. I could slow paddle, but the second I tried to sprint I was done.

    Definitely try to get healthy with PT. **** going under the knife...last resort for sure. Take it slow. Nothing worse than putting 4-6 weeks of work in and then trying to get back out there too quick and reinjuring yourself. Keep up with the stretches and exercises after you're discharged. If you keep those little muscles in the RC flexible and strong, you'll be surfing for a long time.
     
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  10. waterbaby

    waterbaby Well-Known Member

    Oct 1, 2012
    I blew my shoulder out about ten years ago. Never went to the doctor...but it was a year later until it felt good enough to surf again. Haven't had any major problems since, but I don't paddle nearly as hard as I used to...and I think I've developed better technique because of the injury, too.
     
  11. Mr.Belmar

    Mr.Belmar Well-Known Member

    Aug 19, 2010
    I have shoulder /rotator issues too. I'm not sure what condition mine are in- but a few years ago I started taking some supplements and have felt almost completely normal since. In started to feel better with a few months actually.

    Chondroiton with msm
     
  12. Arc1

    Arc1 Member

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    Nov 1, 2013
    I'm in the same boat. And nothing makes it hurt more than paddling and pop ups. But the surgery and rehab is an absolute ***** with no promise of total success. Full rehab is literally a year. My doc, who's a good friend, told me I'm better off trying to manage it and if it totally blows the decision is easy.

    Have a friend who has had a rotator cuff repair and a hip replacement, and said the hip replacement was a breeze comparatively.

    Good luck, and don't eat it on a big wave and go arm first into it like I did.
     
  13. beaner

    beaner Well-Known Member

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    Jun 4, 2006
    I have/had a type-2 SLAP tear in my left shoulder for a number of years now. My doctor recommended PT before going down the surgery route. My PT regiment was stretching and strengthening of the stabilizer muscles around the shoulder joint for 3 days a week. I would also do some stretching and strengthening on my own at home. It is really really important to perform the "homework" they give you on a regular basis. I also recommend a trigger point ball or a lacrosse ball to use as a massage tool to get deep into the muscles around your shoulder blade. Hurts at first but as the scar tissue breaks down you'll notice the pain easing and your range of motion increasing. Make sure you research the PT that you go to...find someone sport specific, and, if you can, someone with a surf or swimming background.
     
  14. salt

    salt Well-Known Member

    Mar 9, 2010
    ^^^best advice I've seen so far. The shoulder is the most dynamic and most vulnerable joint in the body. Think about how much range of motion it has, and how shallow the joint is. Basically, it's a ball and socket type joint, but what actually holds it in place is pretty flimsy compared to the deep heavy-duty ball and sockets of the hips, let alone the knees, elbows, etc. A strength imbalance or overall weakness of the muscles supporting the rotator cuff, combined with stiff un-stretched muscles makes the joint even more vulnerable to injury. I've learned that PT can help with a lot of shoulder injuries, but some things just require surgery if you want to be "back in the game". I won't get into my tales of woe and recovery regarding my shoulders, but, my advice is to find a great group of physical therapists, stick to a regimen, do not overdo it once you're feeling better, and never stop your PT. I am in the gym, or at home, strengthening/stretching the muscles supporting my shoulders twice a week religiously. I don't throw baseballs anymore at full speed, or anything ballistic that could wreck the joint. My shoulders are made for paddling, and I want to keep them that way for a long time. Once you get a PT regimen prescribed that works for you (if it works), buy all the gear you used at PT and replicate everything at home. Maintenance, like a car. Sorry if that was long-winded, but I hope it proves helpful.
     
  15. sisurfdogg

    sisurfdogg Well-Known Member

    Jun 17, 2013
    Six months ago I tore my left shoulder a bit. It hurts but not so much if I swim and do a light PT regimen 3 times a week. If I surf, I am very sore the next day. I have no idea if it is getting better, but it is not getting worse. I am hoping six more months, and if I am not too stupid in the water, it will get better. No plans for surgery. I've heard it doesn't work too well. Thanks for the link huuor. Keep the faith and heal up, JohnnyU!
     
  16. JohnnyUtah

    JohnnyUtah Well-Known Member

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    Sep 26, 2008
    Awesome feedback men! With PT, Supplements, stretching, doing my homework.. and masturbation I'll be back in that lineup soon.
     
  17. Onelove87

    Onelove87 Well-Known Member

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    Aug 8, 2012
    i had a grade 3 separation of my shoulder last year do to a snowboarding accident. PT is your best bet if you really want to continue surfing for a longer period of time. Like many people i was going three times a week. Stretching of the shoulder is the biggest key. Unfortunately I fell on my shoulder 2 weeks ago from ice and needless to say shoulder has not felt the same. Like I said stretching is key, and defiantly do not try to over do it while your in the water. If you have to struggle to paddle into the way your doing more damage to your shoulder then you think. Sometimes you have to give up the goods to surf another day.
     
  18. sisurfdogg

    sisurfdogg Well-Known Member

    Jun 17, 2013
    I am still doing PT and thanks again huuor for the links...it has worked out well so far....surfed alot lately,,,,well overhead and pumping,,,,and the shoulder holds up...still sore after a surf...but PT and yoga and tai chi has been very helpful. I still have to be cautious on big days and pick waves carefully, and medium days of windchop I have to cut the session short...just using common sense....to those who are dealing with this...avoid surgery, do your PT homework, swim, stretch, use girly weights, and rest up between surfs...
     
  19. daeggman

    daeggman Well-Known Member

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  20. seldom seen

    seldom seen Well-Known Member

    Aug 21, 2012
    Utah, how's your shoulder?

    It's a friggin lungstoppah out there this morning!