Food Inc.

Discussion in 'All Discussions' started by Guod, Nov 10, 2014.

  1. yankee

    yankee Well-Known Member

    Sep 26, 2008
    You're a total idiot with a keyboard.

    Without the Internet, you'd be the village idiot who merely annoys the other idiots in your inbred family. Unfortunately, you're enabled by the Internet and, sadly, you show up here: spouting your shallow talk-show drivel that is aiming for points but missing completely on quality & accuracy.

    skidmark, you're the eternal ass clown. You blame the eponymous "DC" for all your problems. To repeat for the benefit of the opinionated ignoramuses in the room (that would be you, skid) the issues are omnipotent & local and those issues commence in your local asspects. "DC" is merely the glib catch-phrase-target that you parrot after you send your morons of whatever political persuasion to Washington.
     
  2. yankee

    yankee Well-Known Member

    Sep 26, 2008
    ^ This.

    And, shakin' my head over the news that SBUX recently joined Monsanto in suing the state of Vermont so that SBUX won't have to label their products that contain GMOs. Friggin sketch & scary. Follow the money.
     

  3. MichaelJR

    MichaelJR Well-Known Member

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    May 4, 2014
    Seriously, I'm unappreciated. Being this consistent takes minutes out of my day that could otherwise be spent being nice to people. Hard trolling takes practice.

    I didn't choose troll life. Troll life chose me!
     
  4. archy 2.0

    archy 2.0 Well-Known Member

    Jul 5, 2012
    yankee, that was the only site I found to watch the doc for free. try googling 'megahare cowspiracy' for a link. maybe that will help. I myself went to that link then pressed play then pause to let the movie download. then watched it 2 hours later without interruption.

    otherwise here is a link to the trailer. http://www.cowspiracy.com/

    the problem I have with the producers of this doc Is that this message is so eye opening and needs to get out in the open so it can reach the masses yet they are charging 15 bucks just to watch it.
     
  5. archy 2.0

    archy 2.0 Well-Known Member

    Jul 5, 2012
    dude, top trying to fight the 2 party system. we should all know that most people in office are selected not elected. take the matter into your own hands and vote with your $$$$. buy local, organic, and unprocessed. be an example and educate others.
     
  6. ocripcurrent

    ocripcurrent Well-Known Member

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    Feb 27, 2008
    Archy -
    Thank you for posting this. I've been on a long path towards veganism and this is giving me more and more solidarity reasons to go through with it. Watching that duck getting it's head chopped off was unbearable.
    I agree with you on the cost and getting this message out to the masses. Clearly in the film they had trouble financially-backing the project so I can understand why. Thanks again dude.
     
  7. Special Whale Glue

    Special Whale Glue Well-Known Member

    Oct 8, 2011
    Word!
     
  8. MergatroidSkittle

    MergatroidSkittle Well-Known Member

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    Aug 11, 2014
    Why would anyone do anything for you on here?
     
  9. GODSxMOONBEAN

    GODSxMOONBEAN Well-Known Member

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    Jun 30, 2014
    Yo merga, I missed your I'm back thread but remember me
     
  10. OldSoul

    OldSoul Well-Known Member

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    Nov 7, 2011
    Factory farming, Monsanto monopolizing seeds and feeding people/livestock their poison... just the tip of the 'berg my fellow swellies. Add the whole "right vs left" nonsense, Ferguson "white vs black"... they want to keep us divided and dependent. We need to educate, organize and push back. I forgot who said it, but it was along the lines of "If voting actually changed anything, it would be illegal".
     
  11. LBCrew

    LBCrew Well-Known Member

    Aug 12, 2009
    I try to eat a wide variety of whole foods, organic and free range whenever possible. Supplement that with food you hunt, grow, and fish for yourself, and that's about as healthy and resonsible a diet as I think I can get. I picked the last of these today... minus two that ended up in the salad tonight.

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    I think my job will kill me before my diet does.
     
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  12. Gnarbutter

    Gnarbutter Well-Known Member

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    Jan 27, 2014
    Does anyone science on here? Jeez.


    Where do you get your facts on all of this? Because I know it is not reputable information found in peer reviewed journals. I have never seen the movie and I get the jist of it, and I am not condoning what some of these bigger corporations do. I am sure that there are better ways for them to go about their business. But the whole GMO and organic thing? No. Go ask starving kids around the planet if they give two turds if what little bit of food they get is "GMO" or "organic". These are doctors doing sound science trying to enhance our food supply and fend off global starvation. There have been countless studies done and there is no substantial evidence that non-GMO/organic food is any better for you. Science is the greatest thing our species has ever accomplished, you guys should try and put it to some good use.
     
  13. Special Whale Glue

    Special Whale Glue Well-Known Member

    Oct 8, 2011
    Gnarbutter, how's this sound?
    "I never surfed before but I get the gist of it."
    Watch the documentry, and come out of the fog known as ignorance. There's enough food to feed the world 10 times over, but as usual, money whores get in the way of what makes the most sense. Food Inc. is loaded with facts that you and the rest of the world need to learn.
     
  14. worsey

    worsey Well-Known Member

    Oct 13, 2013
    he's right about this.....its not a food problem but a $$ one.
    when a fatcat gets a $10 bill its gone forever. no one will be able to use it for anything.
     
  15. sbx

    sbx Well-Known Member

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    Mar 21, 2010
    I grew up on the Eastern Shore of Maryland, whenever I go home I am struck by how GMO corn and soybeans have changed the landscape there. It seems like (I'm no expert and I could be way off base) a majority of fields have gone over to no-till, and I'm sure they are doing this thanks to Roundup-ready crops. If we assume that glyphosate is essentially harmless, this is great from an environmental standpoint, no-till greatly reduces erosion and I think has some carbon sequestration benefits. But, and this is a big but, I'm not convinced that glyphosate is harmless, since science has given us a long parade of herbicides and pesticides that were sold as harmless and later turned out to be anything but. And maybe the glyphosate isn't working so great anymore, so last week Dow announced new seeds to go with new pesticide combinations to get around that pesky resistance. I'm not a scientist but it sounds a bit like the old lady who swallowed a fly.

    Now as far as hunger, what do you think is the main cause of crop failure in the developing world? Again, I'm not an expert, so feel free to correct me, but I would wager that it's drought. If I'm not mistaken, there are not GMO crops on the market designed to be drought resistant. And why would there be, when this technology is clearly driven by the need to profit, not by genuine human needs. There's a lot more money selling seed and herbicide to farmers in the U.S., and farmers in the U.S. I guess are more concerned about weeds than drought.

    There's something else that bothers me, too, and this is a larger, different point, I guess. In another thread a week or so ago I posted a picture of teosinte next to modern corn, and I commented on the enormous amount of work it took to turn one into the other. When Monsanto patents corn seed, they are building on the tremendous amount of work done before them, in this case, done by indigenous people in the Americas, but Monsanto makes money off of it, and the vast bulk of that work is rendered invisible. It doesn't seem right.
     
  16. yankee

    yankee Well-Known Member

    Sep 26, 2008
    +1 and then some
     
  17. brewengineer

    brewengineer Well-Known Member

    Jun 22, 2011
    As with any compound sold in the food market, constant re-evaluation is needed to guarantee safety. Biological research has greatly improve over the last 30 years, so I will still yield to the expertise of the people who study this sort of thing. If you decided you weren't going to eat anything that doesn't contain any harmful compounds, or anything that hasn't been determined to be 100% unquestionably safe, then you might as well stop eating food all together. Even the organic products contain many pesticides that have not been studied to determine safety. Everyone with internet access now thinks they know more about food safety than the people who actually study it.

    Again, you are missing the scientific aspect and facts. Drought resistant doesn't mean will grow without water.
    http://www.bountifulgardens.org/Drought-Tolerant-Crops/departments/344/
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...rn-to-adapt-to-drought-but-will-it-be-enough/
    http://www.geneticliteracyproject.o...-drought-tolerant-crops-distorts-big-picture/

    No one is forcing the farmers to buy the seed. It is supply and demand. The farmers want better yields, less work, and more pest resistance. The bio companies supply this for a cost (which is very cheap or sometimes free with subsidizing). Free market capitalism. Monsanto isn't patenting heirloom corn seed from traditional crops. They are patenting specific genomes that are created through internal research, using gene splicing, selective breeding, and even chemical modification. You want a real resolution? Stop breeding. If the planet wasn't full of over 7 billion hungry mouths to feed, the demand for modified crops wouldn't be as high.
     
  18. brewengineer

    brewengineer Well-Known Member

    Jun 22, 2011
    I have watched the documentary, but have kept quiet for many reasons I rather not go into. It is an ok doc, but is still filled with one sided opinions based on very little science. Even the parts about Monsanto are void of all the facts. A few of the example cases against Monsanto don't really give both sides a fair chance. Anyways, I read this critique a couple years ago, and I think it sums up my feelings about the documentary: https://farmthestart.wordpress.com/2011/08/23/food-inc-a-critique/

    This is my issue. It is a documentary, not a peer reviewed scientific article. Just with any any documentary, it is 1/3 Fact, 1/3 Opinion, and 1/3 Fluff to make it all go together. Again, it isn't the worst doc out there, and I do like some parts of it, but it is far from 100% science fact. What the world needs to really learn, is to not be so gullible and actually do some real research. Yes, we need to be more concerned with what we are eating. That doesn't really mean all organic local food is all good and all corporate food is all bad. There are pros and cons for both, and it is best to weigh out all the options.
     
  19. yankee

    yankee Well-Known Member

    Sep 26, 2008
    How many committees does one need before one 'believes?'

    Brew, I get your point. But, as a related example, the Inuits told us years before science did that the polar ice cap was melting.
    Not taking issue with your request for more proof; just saying that, what's the line from the movie 'Tommy Boy' ......paraphrasing, ' I can get a good look at a T-bone by sticking my head up a bull's ass, but I'd rather take a butcher's word for it.'

    Happy Monday.
     
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  20. worsey

    worsey Well-Known Member

    Oct 13, 2013
    said it before.
    like that mans' lucidity.