Any of you Swellies Paleo?

No, I'm bubonic.

Welp....good luck.

 

what is paleo?

 

Is that Portuguese / Brazilian?

 

iv'e done it. it works but my body freaks out when i get about three days in.

get ready for:

1. you will have intense cravings for carbs and sugar after the first day or so. then the cravings go away.
2. i get the sh!ts really bad on about the third day. this is actually a fairly common side effect. they go away too.
3. be careful if you plan on exercising. you will like like zero energy. you get used to this too.

look up 80/20. this works best for me. ymmv

 

Oh, ok. Thanks to The Google. Eatin like a cave man. Too much to read. Said bacon = bad. Quit readin.

 

Capt. Jack, I advise that you do some research before embarking on a Paleo diet, or any other diet for that matter. i'll give you my opinion of Paleo diet since I'm kind of a nutrition geek.

Paleo diet at the heart is a good thing. it's based on WHOLE organic foods. nothing processed. we should all eat this way no matter what dietary rule you follow.

it also matters what version of the Paleo diet you follow, bc there is no scientific proof as to what early man ate. like I've said in previous threads the early humans ate according to there geographic locations. some high in carbs some high in fats and protein.

moist Paleo so called experts use 'bro'science and outdated medical research to prove their diet plan is the best.

example: CARBS. they base 99.9% strict limitations of carbs based on studies of processed grains and corn syrup. while medical research shows that a fiber rich high fruit diet, whole grains and legumes is healthy and beneficial in preventing many health ailments.

most of these so-called Paleo experts are very unhealthy too. classic examples are Dr. Atkins of the Atkins diet (which by all definition is Paleo) Dr. Atkins died overweight from a massive heart attack. Weston Price of the Weston Price Foundation who died of a stroke in his early 40's. Loren Cordain overwight and unhealthy looking. Sally Fallon of Weston Price foundation overweight. Mark Sisson calorie restriction, intermittent fasting on stimulants and steroids. Dave Asprey out of shape sick looking on stimulants and prescription speed and steroids and diabetes medication. Calorie restricts and intermittent fasting.

These experts also recommend intermittent fasting and calorie restricting to control weight gain. also Metard (if that's Metard) is right when saying low energy. these experts also say that the Paleo diet is not good for athletic performance. they rely heavily on stimulants such as coffee to get through the day.

some things to consider on the Paleo Diet: constipation, heart disease, over working of the kidneys, chronic fatigue, bad breath/ body odor. I work with a dude that eats paleo and when he farts you gotta leave the building for an hour.

IMHO a diet high in fruits and veggies, whole grains and legumes, low in fats and protein is a healthy one. BTW high protein for health and strength is a myth.

http://www.webmd.com/diet/high-protein-low-carbohydrate-diets
not a defacto but a good idea of Paleo and health.

do the research Capt. Jack and good luck with the high blood pressure.

 

No bacon, plus spontaneous combustion... I dunno... Archy, I agree with trying to eat organic. Don't always, but at least I give it a shot.

 

don't know where you get the spontaneous combustion from, but as far as bacon and good health goes its common medical fact that diets high in animal fats (bacon) is no bueno.

this thread by Capt. Jack is about the Paleo Diet and bettering his health. technically bacon is not Paleo but some paleo experts will argue it is.bacon in the diet is a learned behavior. sure it tastes good but is it good for you? if you wanna eat bacon go ahead. no criticizing here. its your choice and your health.

the whole Paleo Diet and what it is all theory and the proper Paleo Diet from so called Paleo experts is false. the science of anthropology proves this. http://www.nationalgeographic.com/foodfeatures/evolution-of-diet/

 

http://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/features/can-bacon-be-part-of-a-healthy-diet

 

Woo Hoo! I can still eat bacon... some. Actually, that's all I do (some), even though I love it. There ain't many things that make my house smell better than some bacon sizzlin in my iron skillet. It's gettin so danged expensive, though! Good link, Mr. Archy.

 

archy:

Quite a lot of misconceptions in your post IMO. For the record I eat a paleo based diet with grass fed fermented dairy, white rice, and white potatoes.

A lot of paleo detractors like to point out that we don't know exactly what our ancestors ate, or we can't eat the same foods as them because they don't exist anymore. That is not the point of paleo. We do know what types of foods our ancestors didn't eat (sugar, vegetable oils, grains, dairy, etc.), and we know what types of foods our body's are meant to eat (meat, fish, vegetables, fruit, nuts). Paleo is about eating the foods our body's have evolved to thrive off of.

I agree about paleo wrongly vilifying carbs, but it seems that carbs are starting to become more accepted in the paleo world. Keep in mind that paleo is a relatively new idea that has really taken off in recent years. People are still tinkering about the ideas. For example, paleo started out emphasizing lean meats, now it embraces fatty meats.

I'm not sure where I stand entirely on grains.... I don't eat them because they seem more likely to cause harm than any good. I don't think they have much of any health benefits, and you would be better off replacing those calories with meat/seafood/vegetables/fruit, but as long as you keep them in moderation I don't think they are all that bad (except wheat, I wouldn't recommend eating wheat).

Re: Atkins - It's really not that similar to paleo. Take a look at an Atkins bar ingredients list, it is filled with garbage. Atkins advocates the use of vegatable oils, artificial sweeteners, and is fine with some grains.

Cordain, yeah definitely doesn't look great. If I remember he is an advocate for very low carb and low fat? Not sure if he has changed those views.

I don't know much of anything about Weston Price and Sally Fallon. Or Dave Asprey, but I just looked up pictures of him and he doesn't look unhealthy to me.

Mark Sisson - I can't remember every hearing him talk about calorie restriction. Also not sure why it sounds like you are vilifying intermittent fasting, it has a number of health benefits. Obviously the stimulants and steroids is just gossip.

I've never heard of anyone in the paleo world advocating calorie restriction, I don't know where you are getting that from. Experts saying the paleo diet is bad for athletes is news to me as well.

Constipation - yep, could be a problem if you go very low carb
Heart disease - uhh what? Do you still think saturated fat causes heart disease?
Kidneys - There is no evidence that high protein diets will harm the kidneys in healthy people
Fatigue - Eat more carbs.
Bad breath - If you go VLC (ketogenic) then you will likely have bad breath when waking up. I tried a ketogenic diet for a while and that was my only experience with bad breath.
Farting - I haven't heard this one. While paleo I basically never fart, and if I do there is no scent.

I'd recommend anyone interested in this diet/nutrition stuff check out resistant starch. A lot of really cool stuff coming out with the research on it, it basically proves that very low carb / ketogenic diet advocates are BS. The best place for info on it is http://freetheanimal.com/2013/12/resistant-primer-newbies.html That blog started the resistant starch movement, tons of interesting posts in there. We are only just starting to realize how important the gut biome is to our health.

 

not Paleo, but I've been called Neanderthal on several occasions.

 

what? a paleontologist?

 

I gotta tell ya, legumes are good but ay caramba....

https://video.search.yahoo.com/vide...a&sigb=13aakkj4e&hspart=mozilla&hsimp=yhs-001

 

I think everyone should get a book or two about wild foods and spend some time foraging.

 

Fasting is for Muslims and cleanses are bullsh*t.

Mankind has subsisted in the Valley of Mexico for over 12,000 years. I'm gonna go forage myself a burrito.

 

the problem I see is the whole labeling of diets. since there is such a broad spectrum of "paleo" diets the confusion sets in. if your eating potatoes and white rice than in some paleo circles your not paleo.

my diet could be considered paleo. no processed food, no processed oils, rice, potatoes, legumes, fruits and veggies all in their natural unprocessed state. only one thing. I don't eat meat so I'm considered a vegan. but if you ate only potato chips and drink soda your still a vegan.

see my point?

where's your science?
last time I checked the medical community is in disagreement on that topic. http://www.webmd.com/heart-disease/news/20140320/dietary-fats-q-a

what about the people that go paleo to improve their health?
http://annals.org/article.aspx?articleid=716162 1 in 4 healthy middle aged women developed kidney problems after starting a high protein diet.

from what I hear from a lot of these so-called paleo experts is that "fruit makes you fat". that is total BS. a lot of the "paleo" gurus promote a low carb diet. again the confusion.

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http://www.marksdailyapple.com/starvation/#axzz3MaDUpG5G

coffee is a stimulant and Mark drinks a lot of it.
in this article Mark says he takes testosterone which is banned from most athletic associations as a performance enhancer. http://www.slowtwitch.com/Features/Mark_Sisson_says_training_is_no_guarantee_of_health._4.html

again many of the so-called "paleo experts" promote a low carb diet. try putting in 6 hour surfs daily on your next indo boat trip on a low carb diet. your gonna fail hard.
Paleo expert Mark Sisson agrees http://www.marksdailyapple.com/primal-athlete-compromises/#axzz3MaDUpG5G

like I said this whole labeling thing is BS. it's not paleo its more like what humans ate 200 years ago in rural areas. a diet of minimally processed foods low in refined salts oils and sugars. that's all.

if you eat a low carb high fat high protein whole food diet then that's what it is. just like I eat a whole food high carb plant based diet.

 

I own several, and there is def some good food out there free for the pickin.

some of my finds





not many people know that the American Indians subsisted on a tuber called the Wapato or Indian Potato and was a staple for many European settlers well into the late 19th century.