question of the day

Discussion in 'Mid Atlantic' started by Swellinfo, Apr 13, 2009.

  1. Swellinfo

    Swellinfo Administrator

    May 19, 2006
    I was asked this question today. Is it possible to have a north wind if you are standing on the north pole?

    I know my answer, but I'll let you dwell on it for a bit.
     
  2. super fish

    super fish Well-Known Member

    Sep 2, 2008
    im assuming yes somehow, but i am not sure
     

  3. SkegLegs

    SkegLegs Well-Known Member

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    Feb 8, 2009
    All of the wind in the northern hemisphere converges onto the north pole and forms a vortex portal to the land of gum drops and unicorns. So no.
     
  4. epidemicepic

    epidemicepic Well-Known Member

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    Feb 21, 2008
    haha good question, id say technically if you are standing right on the true north pole, than the wind is certainly not coming from true north ( unless maybe its a straight downdraft ??! )

    However, i think what they actually do is take a map of the area and orient it so that 0 degrees longitude is pointing "up" and overlay a grid on top. Zero longitude then marks the north and south directions, while 90 degrees clockwise from north (90E) is grid east, 270 is west, and so on.

    so, while it is perfectly sensible to speak of north wind at the north pole... the definition is practical, and not founded in any truth about the directions of the compass.
     
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  5. rgnsup

    rgnsup Well-Known Member

    Jun 23, 2008
    Definitely what he said...
     
  6. ocripcurrent

    ocripcurrent Well-Known Member

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    Feb 27, 2008
    I'm gonna say no, because most or the airflow will circulate with the movement of the Earth's rotations, so it will go in a certain direction.

    But what do I know, I've never been there :p
     
  7. Mooseknuckle

    Mooseknuckle Well-Known Member

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    May 12, 2008
    if you are at the north pole according to the lines of latitude and longitude the than the wind would always blow from the south because every direction is south from there. they probably measure it in degress out of 360 starting at the prime meridian would be 0. then you can raise a whole other question if you wanna talk about magnetic north.
     
  8. DavidOlya

    DavidOlya Well-Known Member

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    Dec 11, 2007
    All winds are south winds at the north pole. You can't even really distinguish east and west from that point.
     
  9. beaner

    beaner Well-Known Member

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    Jun 4, 2006
    I agree with knuckle and olya. And now i'm going to google it because i need to know the answer
     
  10. JMD

    JMD Well-Known Member

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    Jun 26, 2007
    Well I was told in physics class years ago that the North Pole is actually the South Pole and the South is really the North.


    By that I would have to say yes you can get a north wind on the North Pole.:p
     
  11. Zansurf

    Zansurf Well-Known Member

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    May 12, 2008
    Wasnt there an old joke about this

    There is a bear outside of a house, and the house experiences southern exposure from all sides, what color is the bear?

    White because your at the north pole, and it's a polar bear.

    Anyone else heard this one?
     
  12. Chris Joyner

    Chris Joyner Moderator

    690
    May 23, 2006
    Without answering the question, where ever you stand there are the primary 4 directions.
     
  13. Swellinfo

    Swellinfo Administrator

    May 19, 2006
    YES, I agree. This only comes to play if you are standing at the 100% precise point of the north pole... Any other time, there will be an east,west,south,north.

    You cant define any direction if there is no North.
     
  14. epidemicepic

    epidemicepic Well-Known Member

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    Feb 21, 2008
    i agree that if you are standing at the precise point of north, than there are only south winds.This is because north itself has been given the definition of the very point you are standing on.

    When you are standing at this point, however, you are still faced with four main directions. These points of direction, ahead of you, behind you, to your left, to your right, now require a new definition, because the old one is no longer of any use to us. Therefore you simply assign these directions new meanings for purposes of utility.

    Thus, you CAN define direction without north as a reference point, you simply have to pick a new reference point, such as longitude zero. So.... while there are no north winds in the strong sense of the word, it is still necessary to use the points of the compass with a new definition, thus gaining a "north" wind, in the weak sense.
     
  15. Swellinfo

    Swellinfo Administrator

    May 19, 2006
    I agree...
     
  16. pvjumper05

    pvjumper05 Well-Known Member

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    Jun 15, 2008
    ah, but what would the wind thingy read if you were to put one on the north pole
     
  17. beaner

    beaner Well-Known Member

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    Jun 4, 2006
    so, hypothetically, if you are standing at magnetic north (which apparently changes) what does the compass read? does it just spin in circles or maybe explode in your hand :eek:?
     
  18. Swellinfo

    Swellinfo Administrator

    May 19, 2006
    Wouldn't it be impossible to stand exactly at magnetic north. It would be like trying to count to infinity. You can always get closer.
     
  19. Ricky Data

    Ricky Data Well-Known Member

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    May 31, 2007
    Why do you say that? Doesn't there have to be a specific point that attracts the compass? You just keep following the compass and then it switches directions.
     
  20. wbsurfer

    wbsurfer Well-Known Member

    Mar 30, 2008
    i have that was on one of those iq tests i once toom on facebook.