Right of Way - Who?

its reserved for the fat and lazy

 

lots of Brazilians are men with vaginas or chicks with d's and the rest of the bunch mostly switch hit so I understand why you had to snowball a guy you never spoke with. I'm not saying I would have chosen that route but to each his own....

 

theres always an unoccupied peak somewhere if your willin to do some splorin. dont matter if its jersey, long island, or even L.A.

 

During the jaoquin swell i had a situation where a kook who could catch waves on a big a$$ longboard from way outside but he was just going straight. Wasnt riding the face. He didnt turn. He did nothing! He'd paddle right back out an set up just outside everyone. So i set up right underneath him. After a near miss he got the point. Someone else in the lineup yelled at him to bottom turn. Do something! He could of did that $h!t in the whitewash!
A lot of it will depend on who your dealing with too. You could be dealing w a true local and although they dont own the waves theyve put in the time and deserve a little somethin somethin for that. Im a sandbar surfer too and most times we have no set way to determine a line up w drifts and a windswell who knows if your in the right spot from wave to wave. In my case you could tell i wasnt dealing w an experienced surfer and if he was f him cause he was a d bag for not nailing a bottom turn and going for broke and taking it all the way down the line

 

This is my point exactly. I have no issues giving waves up to others but I'll be damned if I going to lose the my spot at the peak because others are chasing everything that comes through. I'm no snake by any means, just experienced. So there, deal widit.

 

This varies from break to break but for most places you are spot on. The obvious exception would be reef and point breaks where a rotation develops at the peak so long as everyone is polite.

The guys who complain are usually the same ones who find themselves out of position due to lack of ability to read the incoming waves or a lack of physical fitness. A lot of times this is where local knowledge comes into play. A smart local is going to see a set in the distance and he will know exactly where to be and he's going to get there while the rest of the pack is sitting there with their thumbs up their butts. Its not that that local is being a **** its just that he knows how to read the spot.

Like I said in an earlier post at my home spots it all comes down to competing for waves. If you think someone owes you a wave simply because you are in the water you are sadly mistaken and you will probably be reduced to whining about it on an internet forum. Don't be that guy.

 

I don't think clowns-r-us is familiar with the sexual euphemism "snowballing." Maybe he chandeliered him... but that could be a euphemism for tea-bagging...

I like you Clowns-R-Us... No sarcasm... No homo...

 

okay, lots of people are bickering over snaking and holding possition. to stay in possition one must constantly paddle and look at the beach for landmarks to stay between and make sure you are not too far outside or inside so that when a set comes you in a possition to catch a wave. you are paddling around other people because you know a set will eventually come and you want to be in possition to catch a wave when it gets here. a snake is when you are sitting there ten feet away from another surfer and don't paddle around someone until you see the set wave comeing

 

Haha ah CBSCREWBY isn't everything a sexual euphemism these days? Always thought snowballing was causing a section to totally close out whereas a chandelier is basically just a thin curtain you can generally make it though. Guess I coulda said I "foam-balled" him but...that sounds even worse.

 

Sure it is. You can find more empty peaks than occupied ones in NJ.

Might not be the best spot, but Jersey is basically empty 7-months a year. Except for 15 jetties.

 

This^^^

There is definitely a huge difference with holding position because you are competent, and waiting until the last second to paddle around someone with the sole purpose of putting yourself closer to the peak to gain priority.

When it's all said and done though, I tend to see this happen the most with moderately experienced surfers trying to take advantage of others, and weaker surfers tend to let them get away with it. I've found that when you tell someone to knock that sh!t off they don't do it again (at least to the person who said something).

 

Don't:

Paddle around someone for position when a set's coming (unless they're a kook and have had more than ample opps)
Paddle in when someone is closer to the peak (unless they've done the same and you don't mind someone comin up your backside - assuming they are gonna go the appropriate direction)
Drop in when someone's already up
Surf a peak that has shredders when you're just a middle aged gromme (or if you do your better wait your turn until it's all clear...and when you get it don't blow it)
Sit inside on a short board and expect to get anything other than scraps
Sit outside and paddle for every wave that comes your way when there are far superior short boards sitting closer in (and if you do go for one and know you won't make it hail early to give others the opportunity they should have had but we're waiting to see if you'd make it on you L O G)
Continue sitting outside and continue to blow waves cause you're too far out
Screw up someone's line paddling out - and if you do make a pint to apologize even if it means paddling 50 yds...me if you do screw up someone's line then you'd better give them the next wave the comes close to either of you
Go right on a left
Go left on a right
Go straight in to the beach...you're probably at the wrong place if you have to refer to this one
Go a session without thanking someone for a wave they gave you

Basically, pay attention, try not to fug up, and if you do, make up for it your next opportunity

 

Don't paddle outside with your SUP, try to make every good wave and fail to make 1/2 of them like the nitwits out in MA yesterday.

 

Forgot this one

 

also...don't pizza when you're supposed to french fry. Gonna have a bad time

 

Snake as many people as you can.
Drop in on them often.
Paddle across their path on their best wave.
Sit four feet in front of them as the set approaches.
That makes a great day in the water!!

 

Hiss hiss goes the snake
Bad vibrations for good waves
Boo hoo life's unfair

 

You snaked Seldom's avatar. That is for sure. Also, new forum members typically do not direct old salty forum members on the way to troll, respond, etc.