Summer Time Flatness Philosophy Discussion

but what proof of the passing time will you have?

 

ok, then. you answered your own question.

 

.....we really need some swell.

 

No... I meant time... is a waste of time.


By the way, by some twist of fate, I rented Deja Vu (that movie with Denzel Washington) and it basically blew my mind. Especially how everything was the same as it was 4 1/4 days ahead while he was in the past but he somehow managed to save the damsel in distress without having a blackhole come out of nowhere and destroy us all... It was pretty funky how his "first" self died, but his past self stayed alive... which brings me to another question regarding time (even though I think it's a waste of time).

If you find a way to go back in time, can you change the future? Or does the time that you were previously in already contain everything that happened when your other self went back in time? For example, say you saw that there was an airplane crash. You decided to go back in time to stop it. But you (in the past) actually caused the plane crash. Which is weird because that is almost destiny (could you control what happened?). Also, if you died in the past dimension would you still be alive in the present? Denzel Washington managed to save the girl, but I think it was Hollywood voodoo.

Think about this: Beauty is a perception, meaning something has to be perceived as beautiful for it to have beauty. This is a man-made concept, but it is not limited to just humans as a whole. Each individual has their own perception of beauty, for instance, someone may find cars to be beautiful, while someone else thinks that they're ugly, smog emitting abominations. Nature, though is widely regarded as beautiful because it is not man-made, it is created by a higher being (or presence), so it is naturally instilled in us to see beauty in nature. But if there were no humans on earth, would nature be beautiful? but no one would be able to judge that it would be beautiful. It would just be there.

 

Another observation

Based on the fact that it takes time for light to travel, then if time were to be stopped - or paused, if you will - would you still be able to see? Or would everything be black, since light isn't moving to your retina... or maybe the last image of light that you saw would be trapped in your retina, so no matter what you did in the presence of stopped time, nothing would seem to change. Hmmm...

 

Very true for humans on earth. Define time however! It could be infinite space and density, rather a dimension, a structure carried throughout the universe for us to live by. Two views: the 1st view is that time does not refer to any kind of "container" that events and objects "move through", nor to any entity that "flows", but that it is instead part of a fundamental intellectual structure (together with space and number) within which humans sequence and compare events. This second view, Gottfried Leibniz and Immanuel Kant holds that time is neither an event nor a thing, and thus is not itself measurable nor can it be travelled.

--got some of that info off the internet, interesting to see the different theories. Aging does happen of what we considered structure time, however it is a bioligical process and natural selection from the day you are concieved. Natural selection gets weaker after our reproductive life starts. Once we are able to have children, we can give our genes to a future generation. If a gene has not killed you, or otherwise prevented you from having a child, then that gene will be passed on. So, you can argue if there is no time or fundamental universal structure in which we live by, and this is a normal process that occurs to the human body, organic life, etc. from the 1st day you were born, does time really play a role of it, or is it just our perception that it does because we are taught the universal structure of time? So it goes back to the theories of time.

Def. can argue that one for a while, interesting!

I guess we can conclude that time is a linear progression of events.

 

hehe..

like you have already said. Time is only a human label based on numerous events and factors.

Humans have NO effect on time or space. We are a part of it. "Time" as we define it has ALWAYS been. ALWAYS.

Time is a concept that was LABELLED by humans. But it is only words. "Time" as we know is would NEVER "stand still". If the earth stopped rotating for 30 seconds, it would not fade to black. It would stay constant. It would continue to be whatever light of day it already was... In turn, that could through off our whole ecosystem by having an extra 30 seconds of light or something....

My point is, time is a word that described MANY different things all combined. Its light, distance, speed etc... So, if you take any one of those factors away, then the rest would still do what they do, not affected by the other variables....

There is no "TIME"... There is just all of those other things. Light, speed, distance, rotation, air etc.... So, we just had to somehow identify a systematic way of life. A way that through understanding "TIME" we could stay alive. Like knowing what the seasons are based on sunlight. Back in the day, that determined what and when you could eat... They didnt have refrideraters. People died every winter, every year... And with the labelling of "TIME" we, as man were able to eliminate certain risks on our civilization...

Its just a word... A label.. We did not create anything. We just use that word to PARTIALLY understand the world... Its a lamen term...

 

The Earth is rotating at a speed of about 1100 miles per hour(defying gravity). If our planet suddenly stopped rotating, the atmosphere would still be in motion at that speed. The atmosphere would be moving so fast it would literally sweep the land masses clear of anything not anchored to bedrock, this would mean rocks, soil, trees, buildings, people and animals. All would be swept up into the atmosphere. However light could stay constant but much different, In this case, one half the Earth would be in daylight for half the year while the other side would be in darkness. The second half of the year it would be reversed. Temperature variations would be far more extreme then they are now. The temperature gradient would affect the wind circulation also. Air would move from the equator to the poles rather then in wind systems parallel to the equator as they are now.

 

this is what i was saying.

 

how do you guys come up with all of this crap?

 

because our brains have developed enough for logic, while the capacity of yours is limited to xbox and your epoxy merrick ****cake.

 

i might be selling the merrick as i got a green room. and my brain has developed and my brain is not limited to xbox as i hardly ever play xbox.

 

then what is time

 

I hate it when I write crazy elaborate posts and no one sees it.

 

"have not humans been around since the beginning of time?"

like it.

"time" did not have a name until humans developed the need to plan ahead for perhaps agricultural or religious purposes such as the mayans with their astrologically based calenders. i believe that this is a beautiful planet and i am fascinated every day