Florida... Orlando, specifically

Lighten up Francis... I'm sorry if I insulted your rubbernecking video. I will also try to be more understanding and not get upset at people on the parkway that slow down to take pics of accidents.

 

Weird. I went back to double check and every post before you focused on the religious aspect of it. You were the first to bring up the 2nd amendment and the first to imply that the liberal agenda is right around the corner ready to ban firearms. Pouncing on any opportunity to take shots at the left, even if it's less than 24 hours after an American tragedy. Way to take the low-hanging fruit Barry.

As far as you being so supremely intelligent....I am sure if you say something loud enough and enough times, you can get yourself, and many weak minded people, to believe anything.

 

The main reason why islamic terror attacks are happening in this country is to take away our 2nd amendment along with other freedoms…wake up. Notice how Hiliary is talking about bringing down the 2nd amendment and more censorship on the internet. Its all set up…wake up.

So yes Barry bringing these issues up is important. If you care about freedom and stuff like that. And oh yeah one more thing……Wake Up!

 

I understand what you're trying to say but it happened on a city street, I just used the sidewalk from a neighborhood to get there since Orange was closed from a certain point.

 

I have been on social media; however, the statement he made is low-hanging fruit in my opinion. It is obvious that issue is going to come up. It's like saying "I wonder how long it will take for someone to say bring up black lives matter" after a white cop shoots a black criminal. You can give him kudos for his prediction; however, I only saw it as stating the obvious and a thinly veiled slight at the side Barry doesn't agree with.

I was also just having a little fun with Barry. Plus, I was a little drunk; but hey, when it comes to Barry, Hemingway said it best, "an intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools."

As far as the left/right paradigm, I have voted many times in my life, for many different levels of govt, but only once for an R or a D...

 

Well.... that and we have killed hundreds of thousands of people over in the middle east. Kinda pisses off some people after awhile might even make them feel justified in taking revenge. Of course the politicians, left or right, will use any event to further their cause. Certainly our Gov. only has our safety at heart.<sarc>

 

Nonsense. The Islamic State wants their religion to take over the world and nothing will stop them. They don't care about what we did in their country. They happily kill each other over their ideologies, with or without our involvement. Stop having guilt, we are the best country in the world and we need to fight for it…..wake up!

 

I wasn't trying to hassle you, sometimes I just don't grasp the logic behind things like this.

Outlaw the AR-15's, then what? You will have 8,000,000 (I actually looked it up) now illegal guns on the street. So now the law abiding citizen cannot own one, but criminals will be swimming in them. Not exactly a solution. AR-15's are no more deadly than any other form of simi automatic rifle, like the mini14, they are just black and scary. So now we have to outlaw everything but bolt action rifles? Let's just take it back to black powder muskets...

We don't have a gun problem in this country, we have a people problem. If you want to talk about accidental deaths, and even suicide in regards to gun control, that's fine. But don't you think Johnny Jihad could have kill just as many people with a couple glocks with 30 round mags sticking out the bottom of them? ****, that's twice as deadly as an ar-15, and that's what was used in columbine and the colorado movie theater shootings. In both cases AR's were in the trunk, never even got used.

 

You maybe right. They attack us in the hopes we take away our freedoms from ourselves. It is a clever trap. We shouldn't fall into it. Us hating all Islam would be good for them. So let's not do that and remain pluralist.

But don't you think a common sense gun law that takes some guns out of some peoples hands is a little valid?
I'm not saying take all the guns from everyone. That is extreme. I'd be OK with some kind of conservative approach that kept the guns out of no fly guys and people with a history of mental illness.

 

Really? REALLY? This is all a set-up? Letting dozens of citizens be murdered to take away guns? You are full bore retarded.

Tlkein... great post.

And on the gun thing... no one is talking about taking away all guns. Guns are already limited... you can't get a fully automatic rifle, a silencer, Uzi, bazooka, etc. Saying that regulating AR-15s and AKs and similar citizen level riffles is a good idea is not the same as taking away all guns. None of those weapons are used for home protection, few for hunting, there is no way that you are going to defend yourself against the US army with one, and the main point seems to be that a sector of society has fun shooting them...

My question is this, if the main purpose of an assault riffle is to have fun, but it is also being used to kill hundreds of Americans every year, isn't a reasonable sacrifice to greatly limit access to them?

In closing, I have guns... a short barrel 12 gauge, .40 cal handgun and a .380. The 12 gauge is for home protection, the .40 too, and the .380 is my conceal carry. I am all about having guns for protection... but isn't there some middle ground on weapons that are regularly used to kill lots of people? Even if it saved 10 people's lives a year, wouldn't it be worth it?

On the muslim piece, there were 3.3 million muslims in the US in 2015. How many of them have committed acts of religious violence? I can count 3 in the last year... so thats 1 in 1,100,000. Seems like overkill to condemn all of them...

 

Not hassled at all. This sh!t eats me up and I don't have any answers. So I keep asking questions.
Mini 14's are just an older AR. Lever actions are even older. All guns are bad in the wrong hands. Guns exist. there is no going back. And there is a people problem. Big time.

So if we have a people problem then shouldn't the problem people not have easy access to guns? Couldn't we make it a little harder to put a gun in there hands?

 

I want to use gun control logic on the muslem thing. If deporting 3.3 million muslems saves even a single innocent life, it's worth it, right? It would sure help the afternoon commute.

 

OK dipshat. So after the killings, I mean not even 24 hours later, Hiliary gets up at her speech and talks about taking down the 2nd amendment and having greater censorship on the internet (get ready for an Internet ID - hope you all enjoy that one) and Im retorted for thinking this is somehow conceived? Man you are blind. Get ready for more attacks, get ready for Sharia Law in your local neighborhoods….wake up.

 

I don't know about that stank.
they put a ban on seabass fishing out of season. I caught and kept one out of season. I got nailed with a fine. and they took my fish. i don't keep seabass out of season anymore. I'll fish for something else

 

This is actually a great point. Esp w Metrorail being on the fritz until next summer, the gridlock relief would be awesome. Sure, we'd lose a few falafel shops, and the kabobs, well, they wouldn't be quite as tasty, but I say veni vidi vici & open up the nation's concrete nostrils, so to speak.

 

I'll go further with the seabass example. before the ban on fishing big seabass weren't easy to get. Wrecks were way over fished. you caught them but they were small and you end up with a ton of ling cod. Now within the very short season you get on the same wrecks and you're going to catch some big seabass. So they kind of work. Bans that is.

 

Thanks PD, but honestly I don't see where more laws are going to be the answer. The guy who shot up V Tech should have been locked up, and denied access to a so much as a butter knife. Same with the guy in Columbine, or Dylan Roof. And so on and so on. And this latest a$$hat got interviewed by the FBI TWICE and let go. Now it's coming out that his jacka$$'s father does some sort of podcast hating on Murica and thinks he's running some sort of Afghan guvmint in exile. Apple\tree?

The guvmint ain't doing it's job now, I don't see how passing more laws is going to fix that. You can take that down from the Fed level all the way down to Mayberry. Go to any poor neighborhood in any town\city in Murica and if you got the cash you can get whatever you want.

More laws just takes it away from guys like Metard, and I got no problem with him having whatever the hell he wants.

The other thing is by saying "well if we pass this law or ban this" we're once again just letting the guvmint off the hook for not doing their job and continually profiting off these events.

Why aren't people marching\protesting and demanding that they guvmint do it's freaking job, instead of looking for more laws on the books?

 

Yeah, but you actually give a few focks about following the law, and don't like the consequences if you get caught. If you were a nutjob that thought God had ordained you could take all the seabass you wanted and were willing to die for it, would it stop you from fishing for them?

 

Well that's my point. When there are stops on something most people will abide. Or will pay consequences learn and abide. There are nut jobs that don't give a fock but there are lazy nut jobs too that say "Hey I hate those gays I'm going to do something about it then see it's a little harder than they thought to obtain a seabass and say "Fock it dude, I'm going bowling".

 

I get what you're saying, but if death's not a deterrent, then what is? All the guys I've mentioned are ready to die, so I don't know how you can deter someone from doing it, other than locking them up or firing from a catapult out to sea.