Bill Nye Is Cancer

Time zone mistake, I've made the same mistake before and called someone in California or Hawaii when it was really early in the morning. It's an honest mistake on a developing story. She should have checked yes, but I don't think it was intentional. In all fairness to O'reilly, he said at the beginning he wasn't sure if it were true or not but that it was a story that was out there, and may be possible, he didn't say it was a fact.

 

I have not seen evidence the Fox stages protests or interviews camera men posing as the man on the street.

PS--I dont use Fox for my news.

 

Let us also not forget Repubs had 8 years to figure out a plan to replace Obamacare and what did they come up with? They control all 3 branches and still can't get it passed. It is obvious, to me at least, the 50+ repeals attempted that Obama vetoed were only for political ammunition. If you have 8 years to prepare for something and have total control and can't get it thru, what the hell were you doing for the last 8 years?!?!? At least Obama and the dems had their crap enough together to get his crap passed.

I wonder why Fox ignores this? The pundits on that network have been denouncing Obamacare since it started. Why aren't they holding the Repub feet to the fire for totally dropping the ball? I would think guys like Tucker and Hannity would be pretty mad that they can't even repeal Obamacare with a complete majority. But I don't hear them calling out Repubs. They keep attacking the media. You really think the media is the reason Republican Senators are dragging their feet? Or is it the fact that all they could come up with was a watered down version of Obamacare that is no better....I'm curious what you think on this one DP.

 

He wasn't sure if it was true or not and he still reported it, actually lead his show with it (part of his "talking points").....he might as well be called The Washington Post.

 

Obama & his minions had their opportunity.

O'care is No-care >> for the taxpayers that are footing the bill. It doesn't work. It's very expensive for people who p[ay taxes. It's created huge backlogs with many medical providers. It financially punishes anyone over 50.

You seem to believe that we the taxpayer sheeple are obligated to foot the bill for others. I disagree with that assumption.

As well, you're making a moot point in re the Republicans had 8 yrs to come up with alt plans for medical care policies in the USA. It took time for everyone to realize that No-care is seriously flawed / dysfunctional on so many fronts. Now is the time to repair / replace.

Having said that, I refer to my earlier premise: anything that govt is involved in, outside of defending our sheeple, will be a total mess. Regardless of political persuasion.

 

I agree that after 7 years, because Obamacare wasn't passed on his 1st day in office, that the Republican party should have had a plan together that they all could agree on. They should have had consensus already and shouldn't have needed Trump to help them negotiate the deal. Which is what's happening now because the people on the far right won't budge, go figure. But it will get done, it's a process, one that the Dems didn't bother to go through, instead Obama did it behind closed doors and pushed it through in the dead of night when nobody was looking lol (I'm being sarcastic here, kinda)

Having said that, I do recall just about every person on Fox expressing the same concern and the voicing frustration. I specifically remember Hannity losing his mind because they couldn't get it passed and was super frustrated and brought New Gingrich on to talk about it and Newt had to talk him off a ledge. I'll find the video if you need me to.

C'mon man, give the guy a little credit for giving a disclaimer at the beginning. It was a developing story, which typically have moving parts and the facts get ironed out over time. If that tweet in fact had been in the time zone she thought it was, then she may have been onto something. But she made a mistake on the timezone, things happen, that's human error, one i'm prone to myself, as i'm sure a lot of folks have overlooked the possibility of a time zone difference, it happens. You can't compare something like this to the relentless false stories being created and put out by the MSM to destroy trump. Not even close.

 

I expected partisan cheerleading from Hannity. He's always seemed like a hack to me. Without really watching him all that much, I always thought Tucker Carlson was pretty solid for a conservative opinion. Since he got his own show, not so much.

The biggest issue i have, as a conservative, is that it looks like the republicans will either blow the repeal/eliminate Obamacare completely, or will just water it down a bit to to scratch together the votes and then we will be stuck with government controlled/mismanaged health care for the foreseeable future, as congress will have no stomach to revisit it.

 

I agree with everything you say about what Obama/dems did... But Hannity used video of Obama saying you can't rig voting machines in response to Trump saying voting would be rigged... Nobody is claiming that Russia rigged machines and got DJT votes.
That's like the left using campaign video of DJT saying he wants to ban all muslims from entering the US and saying that the travel ban is a Muslim ban.

Like I said Hannity manipulates facts to help prove his point.

 

Well said. Both sides do it and its so painfully obvious.

 

I didn't see it that way, I understood the point he was making. It wasn't an issue then, but it's an issue now. That's all it is.

 

And that's kind of the point. People see what they want to see... You're ok with Hannity using unrelated video to help it prove his point, because it's the view you like. Just like a lefty will watch videos of DJT saying ball ALL muslims and calling him a liar for saying it's not a muslim ban

 

Not at all. It is relevant because Obama knew about the Russian's attempt to hack at that point and was hiding it from the public.

 

The Pentagon lost 6.5 trillion dollars in 2016, as in, it just disappeared. During this time the media had us *divided by race (black lives matter, immigration), gender (women's march, Bruce Jenner, bathrooms), and who's the sloppier turd (Trump/Clinton) all while ignoring the 6.5 trillion question. In turn the rest of our programmed citizens ignored it too. The mainstream media isn't mentioning it so "it's no problem", because citizens don't question their motive or even realize they have an agenda, and that's exactly how mainstream media executives want it. Mainstream media picks and chooses what they think we should and shouldn't know by what they broadcast, and most of us have no clue how grossly filtered the "news" is. Anyone know how many trillions the government misappropriated in 2016? Anyone? F uck it, who cares, we can make up a tiny fraction of the 6.5 trillion the pentagon lost in 2016 by taking health care from poor people. Yeah baby, USA, USA, USA.............

 

i care about the 6.5 trillion dollars that disappeared in 2016. probably 6 trillion in 2015, 5.5 trillion in 2014 and on and on and on. but lets keep arguing about which "news" network leans which way it is way more fun.

 

But that doesn't change that the video he showed had nothing to do with that.

 

But it did NYNJ. I'm not trying to be argumentative here, but I feel it had everything to do with it.

If Obama knew already that Russia was trying to hack the election and said nothing to the American public meanwhile at the same time he was downplaying the possibility that our election could be rigged, just to make Trump look like a baby for pointing out that the election may be rigged, then he was being misleading, by omitting very important information that could have supported Trumps claim that it could be rigged (one way or the other). He wasn't about to do that, for political reasons, even though the American people had a right to know.

If Russia was successful, then the election would have been rigged. But it wasn't an issue to him because he thought Hillary was going to win regardless, probably because he didn't think they were successful in the hacking based on Intel.

So he kept his mouth shut until it became opportunistic to use the Russia Intel by spreading it throughout the deep state to use it against Trump since he won. Again, he knew that if he had said that Russia was attempting to hack the election that it would play right into Trump's claim that the election was being rigged and it would have hurt his candidate (Hillary) because it would have made Trump look like he was right. Whether Russia tried to rigged it, or the DNC tried rigged it, doesn't matter for Trump's argument because all that matters is the fact that someone tried to rig it in the first place.

I don't know what else to say here. I think you are being a little too critical in an effort to prove your argument.

 

What the sheeple tend to be forgetting is that Russian tampering is NOT a new phenomenon. This most likely has been going on for years in many different forms. Certainly the internet and Wikipedia played a huge role during this cycle, and is nothing like we've ever quite dealt with before.

Also being ignored/forgotten is the fact that every single world power does it to everybody else, most certainly including the Big Bad US of A. Chances are very good we've manipulated some other country's election (or who knows what else), but you'll never hear the story from American media sources, MSM or otherwise.

So this is nothing new. My current opinion is that the libs got sick of the last 8 years of obstructionism and hate Trump with a purple passion, so they have a convenient reason to tie a collision story to him to effectively tie his hands over the next 4 years.

But I've studied Trump since the mid 80's, and I believe there is nothing below this man. The collusion stories are plausible. But the libs are gonna need to do a better job finding any existing evidence.

 

I am, once againe, so greatfule that I do not owne a televsione.

 

i prefer to read my news (mostly via Drudge) and make my own conclusions.