full suit advice from OC/bethany beach area needed!

Discussion in 'Mid Atlantic' started by bodyboarddude, Nov 8, 2009.

  1. bodyboarddude

    bodyboarddude Well-Known Member

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    Sep 26, 2009
    ok guys,i need some input on a wetsuit from OC/bethany beach area locals.i'm gonna buy a full suit soon & i can't get multiple suits do to budget constraints.i'm really liking quiksilver's ignite in 3/2.their website says the 3/2 is good from 56F-64F water temps.my question is when the water is in this temperature range,how much does the air temperature affect your suit warmth during sessions? if the water is in this temp. range & the air temp is 50F are you still ok,or do you go up to a 4/3 when the air gets colder? i really only want a suit to get me from end of summer to the begining of winter.i HATE the cold weather so i won't be going bodyboarding from december-march for sure.if the water is still in the 56F-64F range (like now) how low does the air temp have to go to make the 3/2 loose the ability to keep you warm? also,are gloves needed now,or is the water temp warm enough to keep them from freezing? my heads always cold,so gettin a hood or hooded suit is mandatory for me,booties too,but if i can get away with a 3/2 that'd be great,seems like i'd save 50 bucks if i can get away with just a 3/2.any advice from guys around the local breaks here is much appreciated....:)
     
  2. billabongmoney

    billabongmoney Well-Known Member

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    Sep 23, 2008
    wait i got a great idea, go buy a snowboard and leave the ocean alone
     

  3. ocripcurrent

    ocripcurrent Well-Known Member

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    Feb 27, 2008
    This is something that you should Search the forums about, since this is a prolonging topic.

    5/4 hooded and 5mm gloves/boots is the standard in these parts.

    Some guys say they can take it in a 4/3, but I think they are the weekend warriors and don't get out daily, or multiple time a week.

    I know some guys who go with a 7mm boot no questions asked. I use 5mm penguin gloves and they do the trick.

    Sealed, taped, blind double-stitched, fireskins, and inner linings are some things to look into. Make your choice wisely, because it will either make a session or break a session.
     
  4. MATT JOHNSON

    MATT JOHNSON Well-Known Member

    Oct 11, 2009
    Yeah I have to agree . I would just get a Hyper Flex Flow 5/4/3/ and some 7mm booties and 5mm lobster mitts and call it a day. You'll probally spend $300 total for everything if you get everything Hyperflex. Exit98 has some used stuff he is selling CHEAP! and is practily new.
     
  5. ocripcurrent

    ocripcurrent Well-Known Member

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    Feb 27, 2008
    PS. Don't try to be cheap. Think of it as survival gear. You wouldn't want to get lost in the forest without anything to start a fire would you? Don't find yourself staring at 6fters and thinking you can't go out because I don't have the proper gear.

    And think more along the lines of 40 degree water, and below freezing winds, and air temps into the teens.
     
  6. bodyboarddude

    bodyboarddude Well-Known Member

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    Sep 26, 2009
    yeah,i wasn't tryin to re-post anything repetative,i just wanted opinions localized to were i go here in the bethany beach/OC maryland area.today it was at least almost 70F out & swell said the water temps runnin 65 or 66F i think.i was tryin to get a consensus of what guys are wearin around now to the beggining of december & how the air temp affects things if the water is still fairly warmish.i saw a few guys post about being out in a 3/2 several times recently,so i wanted to find out were the cut of was for that thickness suit here locally.i have a quiksilver springer & the quality is freakin awsome & it's lasted forever.the Ignite full has nice quality for a mid-level suit when it comes to how the seams are constructed & sealed,so i may go with that.
     
  7. ocripcurrent

    ocripcurrent Well-Known Member

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    Feb 27, 2008
    Yeah 3/2 is still good right now. 3/2 and booties for most. Gloves come next.

    ...Then the dreaded HOOD! I don't think ANYONE likes wearing a hood. Someone post on here tell me you like wearing the hood, except for the obvious reason "keeps my head warm" Duh.
     
  8. bodyboarddude

    bodyboarddude Well-Known Member

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    Sep 26, 2009
    i totally agree,but i'm not going to be going into the water during winter.i hate the cold alot & i get BAD,BAD ice cream headaches in water much colder than the 50's.i won't be getting in 40F water & air temps in the teens no matter how good the waves are.basically i've noticed in the last week or so that the air temp has fluctuated from 30ish to almost 70F with the water here locally staying around 65-67F,so i was tryin to dial in on what guys are in right now & if the 3/2 was good enough for that wide of an air temperature difference with the water hangin in the mid 60's fairly consistently.folks are really wearin 5/4/3's right now? with 7mm booties & lobster claws?
     
  9. Ray F.

    Ray F. Well-Known Member

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    Sep 13, 2009
    This is really a case-by-case basis. When the air temp dips into the 40s, it does have an affect on you, so some change their wetsuit based on that. Some don't. Just get the 3/2. You obiously don't want to surf during the coldest months and a 4/3 will be too much for the end-of-summer to beginning-of-winter period you described .

    Some guys need more/less than others. A little over a week ago, I saw a guy with a 6oz lycra hood on and the water was 63! I'm guessing he also gets ice cream headaches real bad. I was next to him in a 2/2 Guru & a 5oz lycra top. It was perfect for me & I was out for 3 hours. I could've gone much longer.

    I find the advertised temperatures for the suits are slightly conservative (for me). I'll be swapping to a .5mm top and sticking with my 2/2 until 55 or 56 degrees. Then, I'll switch over to my 3/2, which (with 5mm Drylock booties/gloves & a hood) will take me through winter. I have a Pyscho Freak, though, and anybody who owns one, will tell you the 3mm XDS rubber is at least as warm as a 5mm solid rubber.

    Anyway, again...get the 3/2. If you get cold due to air temp, get a thermal top to wear underneath. If you're hypersensative to ice cream headaches, get a top with a lycra or 3mm hood attached. You don't have to wear the hood. Just my two cents.
     
  10. bodyboarddude

    bodyboarddude Well-Known Member

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    Sep 26, 2009
    thank you RayF,you hit the nail on the head with reguards to all points of what i was asking.i was thinking of getting 1 of those battery-powered thermal vests that Quiksilver makes to try under my suit for the days the air dips really cold,they're another 60-some bucks,but i'll get that at a later date anyway.some on here were asking for reviews on that vest ,so i figured i'd test 1 & post what i find.i was also looking at the hood/vest-hoods on Quiksilver's website & i'll get 1 also & just pull the hood down over my neck if i get too warm or leave it in my bodyboard bag on the beach incase it's needed.
    i'll keep the psycho-freak in mind too,that's aan O'neil right? that may be my 2nd choice if i don't get the Quiksilver Ignite:)
     
  11. Boss

    Boss Well-Known Member

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    Nov 11, 2008
    I have:
    3/2 Rip Curl E-Bomb
    4/3 Body Glove Vapor
    Those suits last me all year. If you want 1 suit, get a 4/3. It can last all winter (get a good one), and can last until boardshorts
     
  12. wontonwonton

    wontonwonton Well-Known Member

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    Mar 13, 2007
    Go for durability. Spend the money once and do it all right.

    A good suit makes everything better. And look for xcell 7 mm mittens. They feel and fit goooood.
     
  13. bodyboarddude

    bodyboarddude Well-Known Member

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    Sep 26, 2009
    yeah,this is kinda how i do things. i try to do alot of research on what i'm buying. i've found that if you spend the $ & get quality right off the bat,you don't regret it. i like to buy a nice suit,take very good care of it & most likely still be using it 5 years out. alot of guys comment on how my bodyboard,springsuit & fins look like i bought them yesterday,but it just a matter of caring for your purchases.the high quality stuff almost always performs better anyway.:)
     
  14. Wetsuiter

    Wetsuiter Active Member

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    Jan 30, 2009
    Have to agree with the majority here. Don't scrimp. You'll get more comfortable year-round usage out of the 5/4. I'm in my 5/4 from Sept through late June. I've never been too warm in it.

    I'm not sure what kind of machismo factor around the Mid Atlantic coast says that you're a wimp if you use a thick suit or any suit for that matter past Memorial Day. There seems to be some weird "badge of honor" for the first guy out in the waves without a wetsuit in the spring. The rest follow like lemmings, even if they are shivering with goose bumps out in the surf! ;-)

    Truth is, we live in a cold water ocean environment here on the DelMarVa MOST of the year. Yeah, the ocean temp spikes for a few weeks in Aug and Sept in the upper 70s, but that is the time of year the jelly fish are at their worst. This year I went back to a full suit (3/2) after some serious stings on my legs and arms in late August with water temp flirty with 80. I was never too warm and I wasn't getting stung anymore.

    Go for the 5/4 with detachable hood. Good boots and gloves will complement it and keep you much warmer. With the stretchier neoprene, there is not much difference in flexibility, but a heck of a lot of difference in warmth in the winter. Look for suit with max rubber skin on much of the torso; that will guard against the wind too.

    Good luck.
     
  15. bodyboarddude

    bodyboarddude Well-Known Member

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    Sep 26, 2009
    yeah,i'm with you in that i tend to wear my springsuit all through the summer. i happen to have a watch with a water temp sensor on it & there was only about 2 weeks in late august/early september wear the water was 78F-80F. another issue i'd have if i just wear a lycra top & trunks was that the lycra top always rides up & i get pretty bad rashes then.i may try 1 of those 2mm neo jackets this summer cause i noticed most have a loop to tie them down to your trunks.i didn't have any issues with jellyfish this year,but if i do,i'll be right back in a full wetsuit for protection.even when water is in the 70's it can lower your core temp & give you chills,especially early in the morning,so at least taking a suit with you would always be a good idea i think
     
  16. Wetsuiter

    Wetsuiter Active Member

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    Jan 30, 2009
    Earlier you said you'd not go out in very cold weather or water and that you get "icecream headaches" in the cold water. THERE is your argument FOR a good 5/4 with all the bells and whistles. Being in a good suit avoids that ice cream thing and extends your riding season well into the winter. I HATE being cold and in cold water--unprotected. Most of us are not out on a day in the teens or twenties anyway, but when there is a nice day in February in the 50s or 60s, you'll want to be out there in the 42 degree water with the rest of the heard.
     
  17. bodyboarddude

    bodyboarddude Well-Known Member

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    Sep 26, 2009
    i can see what your sayin there & i agree.is a 5/4 hard to move freely in? i think the last time i tried 1 was like 15 years ago,maybe more.
     
  18. ocripcurrent

    ocripcurrent Well-Known Member

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    Feb 27, 2008
    Yea, but how many suits are out there with detachable hoods? I've been looking but i can only come up with O'Neill. Anyone else know of more options?
     
  19. Darealm

    Darealm Well-Known Member

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    Aug 17, 2007
    I just bought a 6/5/4 Xcel Infiniti. It seems to fit me real well even though I have not tried it out yet. Its going to be soooo toasty, maybe even too toasty! But I'd rather be too hot than too cold, and the suit seems really flexible for the amount of insulation it has..definitely feels much thicker than my 3/2 i've been wearing lately.

    To the poster's question, 5/4 is standard for winter surfing
     
  20. MATT JOHNSON

    MATT JOHNSON Well-Known Member

    Oct 11, 2009
    Dont get caught up in the More You Spend the Better the suit is gonna be Hype . While there are Suits out there in there own class such as Patagonia and Matuse. You can get a Hyper Flex Suit of the same caliber for half the price of a name brand top of the line suite ( Rip Curl, Xcel, Quick Silver Ect.) and it just as good if not better than the Top Name brands. All my suits are HyperFlex and range in age from 5 years old to Brand new. I got a 3/2 Hyper Flex Flow that is going on its 5 year of use and is holding up great and still has all its strech and feel like it did when It was new. I never had a issue with the suite ripping or seams blowing out either and I am pretty rough on my gear to say the least.
    As long as you wash your suite out with fresh water and every once in a while clean it with wetsuit soap your suit will last a long time