This Sh*t has to stop!

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I live in the South and I will never get the love affair with confederate crap. You lost the war, why celebrate failure? The monuments are the ultimate participation trophy.

 

I disagree. The monuments are nothing more than HISTORICAL remembrances of important persons once of value to the population. To tear them down, no matter what they represent, is to turn your back on your history, good or bad. You then are refusing the lessons to be learned from such former humans, and exposing future generations to repeating the very same errors some of those persons made.
"Those who refuse to learn from history, are condemned to repeat it", so the axiom goes.
The present tearing down of monuments is nothing more than PC gone wild; those tearing down the monuments will be the very groups that will suffer again once the repetition starts. As stupid as stupid does......
I hope I live long enough to see them be victimized by their american imbecilities all over!!

 

i agree Barry. I hope i am one of the people who get to do the victimizing.

 

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I get your point Barry, but to live in South you get a different perspective. I don't think things should be torn down but there are a ton (and I mean a ton) of people that revere these past generals. For what, losing? Why were monuments ever created to losers in the first place? And another argument is that it is about heritage. You want your heritage tied to defeat? It is like the Atlanta Falcons getting a statue for coming in 2nd.

 

so maybe we should erect statues of dylan roof and timothy mcveigh. how about the tsarnaev brothers while we are at it? they are our history too.

 

Come to NC for 5 minutes and you will see. They are seen as trophies to many, not just history. The way these past generals (who lost) are slobbered over is just amazing.

 

they are "very fine people"

 

If Lee listened to Longstreet at Gettysburg, the outcome may have been much different.

 

these statues were not put up during "the time it was widely accepted". most were erected in the early part of the last century and again in the post-ww2 era as the civil rights movement was taking shape. always as a big "**** you" to the black people and to the nation as a whole. they are there to honor those generals not as some kind of history lesson.

 

These statues are very hurtful to a large number of our citizens and their families,many who have fought and died for our country to defend our freedom. Try to look at it from their perspective. Does their historical value outweigh the vision and ideals of freedomme for all that our country was founded upon.

Do/should people have the right to march down your street and tell you they are going to kill you and wipe out your family?

[video=youtube;6XlguKEh3LQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XlguKEh3LQ[/video]

 

Here in Floridee, if someone came to my house and threatened me I can shoot them dead under the law. So what constitutes reasonable threat? I don't think hate and intimidation should be allowed to march under the guise of free speech.

Appeasement didn't work in the 30's in Europe, the Nazis took over with the quickness. Appeasement won't work in modern Amerikkka either. Stand up for freedom for all. Or lose it.