Surfboard design has left me behind

Start saving up now! My rent is 1,700 for a studio. No joke! (I can see the ocean from my window though)

 

I used to ride similar boards that your riding till I bought a 5'8" rusty dwart. The board was 33.5 liters (the same as my old hp shortboards) but this boards paddled faster ,caught waves easier, and was super stable on the pop. Real eye opener! Im currently super stoked on the Lost Puddle jumper @ 5'6"... The board grovels great and holds in up to shoulder high barrels. My next purchase is a p/u Round pin puddle jumper @5'8"-5'10" (about 35 liters for the 5mil.) higher range and float. Check em out and pull da trigga !!!! you won't be bummed I promise

 

This is a close minded MISTAKE BRO! don't buy that POS!!! Go watch some Trip Foreman videos on RealWatersporst.com first!!

 

Hey toonces

I had a flyer 2 for a while (just sold it...) for many years it was my go to board for bigger winter surf since it had a good amount of volumn. I would say it's a great all around, standard board. Good in almost all waves... but has its limitations... one thing I didn't like about it - was that my particular board had pretty thick / fat rails though would often get hung up.. so check the rails on the board in the shop. I had a 6'6 or 6'8, I forget.. over all I liked it, for a basic no frills board. But did get bored of it... but it was good for cruising and carving.

I can't speak to the other boards you mentioned... except the BB- which your right, it has a beautiful shape but only works good in steeper powerful good waves.

Brad mentioned the rusty Dwart - I always liked that shape and sounds like it's something you might like as well... I would check that one out. Rusty also makes some other models that seem similar, might be worth checking out...

 

NP Toonces!! The only guys riding these 2 1/4 performance chips are pros surfing contests. If your just trying to have as much fun as possible on your days off work like me. GET WHAT WORKS! Im a alternative shape whore now, just cuz they are that fun and effortless to rip on! Good luck bro LMK what you choose and the out come.

 

Um, real watersports, um trip forman, um... Next topic.

Volume, ok. But, length, width, nose/tail width, nose/tail shape, outline, rails, rocker, bottom contour, fins, etc., etc., etc....

I have watched far better surfers than me, in critical surf, have their pos cl too short boards make them surf far worse and make it much more difficult for them because they think they can cheat reality and make volume the solution to ripping like slater/fanning/reynolds.

They are ripping, but only a very small percentage of them.

It makes ugly, drawbacks surfers of them all in these critical jersey waves.

The 70's and early 80's did almost the same thing, shortboards 5'10" pushed down to 5'6", reality set in and life once again began at 6'2".

The little boards are good for friendly surf, but that rarely happens here.

 

Wow! You have some problem with Trip? He's an average surfer that samples every board made for the average surfers , very informative on all the new shapes. Nothing starts at 6'2" for me except maybe my step up from my step up that gets dusted off once or twice a winter. I don't know where you live in Jersey but "The critical waves of Jersey" Huh?? 80% of Jerseys waves are friendly except for hurricane swell. Like I surfed all day in Belmar on my 5'9" roberts dreamcatcher witch I ride all winter with no problems at all, the board tops out at 8-10' barreling waves. Also Im pretty sure the man seeking advice here is a smaller guy like 5'4" 175lbs. If he's on a 6'2" Id bet his feet wouldn't even hit the correct sweet spot on the board. But what ever bro Im sure you opinion is valued. Peace!

 

Toonces... I've had three mini-drivers over several years. They are GREAT all around boards. If you're not a great surfer, you're not going to be riding double overhead waves, which is the limit for a mini-driver. If you get it with enough volume, you can ride it in thigh high waves too. If you can actually surf, you will love that board.

Not to complicate things further, but I switched from ... Lost to Pyzel for my good wave boards. I did so for two main reasons... my last few ... Losts have not lasted long (maybe one season of regular riding) and I think Pyzel has passed Biolos as the most dialed shaper of good wave boards. If you could only have two boards, a Pyzalien and a Ghost would cover just about everything. If you really need a groveller... just get a locally shaped Mini-Simmons... they are hard to screw up and you can support a local.

 

'Cause they work in lengths over 6'. It's a totally different set of curves, compared to the 5'8s that are so popular right now.

Just be careful, Toonces... I think you're looking at a stock volume of closer to 36L than 33. I'd check that again before you pull the trigger.

 

No problem with REAL, um, i mean Trip. He is the greatest guy, i guess.

But i would rather talk to Scott and Curtis.

I am not arguing that you do not surf my strip of sand. South and north of me are more user-friendly.

And you proved my point. As i said we are not all ripping 8'-10' barrels.

You rip. But so did tom curren. On a 6'2" thruster. Proven.

Yet to see the under 5'10" work any better than that.

Where i come from the waves are difficult. If you can surf this, you can surf anywhere in the world.

I know what i see. Talented surfers surfing boards made for pros on perfect points. Like you, i guess. Not me, nor maybe this toonces, either.

And our waves are not their waves. I surf beachbreaks.

 

Buying a new surfing boart isn't meant to be this difficult. Toonces, stop over analyzing it. If you've been surfing as long as you say you have and in places like Hawaii then there is no reason why you shouldn't know what works for you.

If you continue to buy off the racks, you'll probably keep having these problems. Get in touch with a reputable shaper, local or not, and trust them to build you a boart that is suitable for your size, ability, and conditions you'll be surfing in.

If you let the shaper do his thing and trust in him, you'll end up with the right boart more times than not. I will NEVER buy off the rack again after 3 customs, ever. Pay the same or less, get exactly what you NEED and have more fun. Why would you do anything else? You've been at this for a while now, surely you're sick of trying to figure it out.

 

Interesting vibe brewing here on personal preference and experimentation.

It has taken me a solid 6-8 years of experimentation after living in Hi for a decade to find a board that is right for "me" on the EC. I have surfed PR, CR, and Indo in the interim with various boards too...all custom boards but two.

Everyone is different. I am currently surfing the most foam (6'2", 2 5/8', 20 1/2") I have surfed as my "short board". Part of the fun of surfing IMO is experimentation.

Rad is hooked on a few boards made by the name brands and is stoked. I choose to ride local shaper boards and each one is shaped with a purpose...whether Indo or Hatteras or sloppy sandbar surf, I approach it with what I think is going to work for me. And frankly after 30+ years I'm still learning and experimenting.

Have fun with it and don't stress. If cash flow is a problem be more deliberate but you can still experiment and move on with out too much of a loss if it does not work. I sold my 5'11" b/c it I realized I'm not 30 YO and 175 anymore (not that a 5'11" shaped proper could not work for me today...I just chose to go longer with this latest experiment). Custom board I surfed a 1 1/2 years and sold for 2 bills. My 6'4" range boards I fine with b/c I surf them in heavier (relatively speaking) surf. It's the waist to shoulder surf board that I'm finding I need to explore more. I sold 4 boards on CL this past year no problem. Experiment and keep moving along til you find the magic stick!

 

I forgot to mention, working with a good shaper not only helps you get the right boart for you, but you'll learn a lot if you ask the right questions and listen to them. I learned so much about boart design on each boart that was built for me. A good shaper will educate you throughout the process. It makes the next boart that much easier. There's always room to learn, but after a few I guarantee you your knowledge on the subject will grow and you'll be less reluctant on the whole process.

 

^^^Solid advice in the last couple of posts.