Billionaire Democrat Petitions Supreme Court to Keep Surfers Off His Beach

This has been going on for several years now and I don't care what his political affiliation is, he is a supreme douche.

Washington state has a weird situation in that it is run by dems and the best spots are on semi-private lands owned by tribes or wealthy individuals with the only access goes straight in front of their properties. They all get pissed when they see a surfer and immediately call the cops, who usually side with the owners.

I don't think the SCOTUS will hear his case. Maybe if this clown loses once and for all, things will loosen up around here.

And you guys over there have that Deal NJ thing going on too lol

 

Yeah... haven't heard much about that in a year or two, probably due to come up again one of these days. Good thing most of my favorite spots in Deal are currently gone due to beach replenishment anyway...

 

Isn't any land (and water) below the mean high tide line public access?

There's an island in the LI Sound that I'll take my boat to often that's technically privately owned, but people have been picnicking on the beach for years. Gorgeous sand, clear water. The island's new owners (it's owned by a house on shore) have called the cops on us, but they weren't able to enforce trespassing since below the tide line is public land.

Wouldn't this be the same deal? If so, rich dude doesn't have much to go on...

 

http://fortune.com/2018/02/23/vinod-khosla-surfers-supreme-court-california-beach/

Here's a link to the same story, without the click-bait headline, and from an even handed source. FWIW the Free Beacon = Huffington Post

 

It has huge implications on private ownership rights and public access nationwide. I'm guessing the court will take the case and side with the rich douchecanoe. Call me a cynic, but this court is no big friend of Joe Q Public.

 

That could be changing...

 

Raid on Ruby Antebi.

 

Hmmm...let's see....the man bought "PRIVATE PROPERTY"....key word, PRIVATE...and now he has to allow suckass pimple pocked surfers run amock on his land?? Naw, I don't think so. As for the beach, morons can get there by walking down the beach, climbing along cliffs, in and out of grottos, across shark infested piss pools in order to get to that crappy surf less beach. Failing that, they can earn and buy similar property.

 

Always hate to agree with Barry; but, it is his private property. I don't see what claim they have to going on it. Either buy your own beach or push for your tax dollars to go towards public beaches.

 

I kinda agree with Barry. As far as the land goes. If he owns it then he owns it. Keeping people off the land is no biggie. However, he doesn't own the ocean. If someone wants to paddle out outside his property and paddle over to a peak that is in front of his property they should be able to.

 

I'm betting SCOTUS sends it back to Court of Appeals too; his Dem contributions didn't help him in lower court rulings other than he can fund his own appeals. I've read it can cost up to a million to prep a case for the high court so kudos who ever is funding the plaintiffs.

Most State's govern tidal water below the high water mark, Mid-Atlantic State's (including N.J.) State law and Case Law has defended this precedent for years. What puzzles me about the Deal, NJ public access to the beach do the beach home owners and/or community and/or community association have a deed to the sand above the high water mark?

 

Private property he chose to buy in a state that has clear language in their constitution about beach access. He's the guy trying to challenge the law... not the surfers. And so far, the courts have agreed, and upheld the state's constitution.

Beach access in NJ is far more complicated. We have no such language, and municipalities are able to get away with a lot of BS in the absence of adequate enforcement of state regulations and case law.

 

You having a "Senior Moment" ?, the State Court and Court of Appeals didn't see it that way as solely a private property issue.
Thank goodness you didn't hear the case, "hang 'um high Cuda.

 

Yes. They own the beach to the Mean High Tide mark. This includes the land their home sits on, and the property on the other side of the road, if the road bisects their property. Their ownership extends across the road, over the sea wall, and down the beach to the high tide line. If they build a staircase over the sea wall, they can post it and not permit pubic access via their stairs. You can't even trespass over their land to get to the beach... unless there's a past practice president. If... historically... people have used a certain point to access the beach, and THEN somebody tries to restrict access.. even though they purchased the land and it's their private property... the historical president holds. At one location in MonCo, a private home owner not only had to grant access to the beach through their private property, that had to MAINTAIN GARBAGE CONTAINERS at the access point!

How f'd is that!?

 

Storm the beach!

 

I believe in NH and Maine, private property extends to the Mean LOW TIDE mark. Much more fucked up than NJ. But then again, we are "liberal" states, where we fight for rights of the "common man". Uh, huh...sure. If you are rich liberal elite...then you are an exception, comrade. You are part of the politburo.

 

Heck, even the Lunada Bay boys had the case against them thrown out recently.

Normally, I'd just go surf another beach. The one this guy in SoCal is trying to hoard away for himself is a nice beach but the break itself is mostly lame.

But this guy purchased the property with a public easement, then immediately shut it down and challenged long standing law.

The fact that he's rich has drawn this thing out way too long. He's has it to himself for like 10 years now. Pull the plug on this guy already and see how that crap plays in Texas, Apu.

 

That's my understanding of this case as well. Wealthy people petitioning for zoning variations is big business in my world. I hope the courts continue to rule against this guy and leave the public access as it was.