T.S.Alberto forms

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  1. Betty

    Betty Well-Known Member

    Oct 14, 2012
    We have Alberto in the Gulf.


    “The dry air entrainment isn't enough to keep models from suggesting a cat 1 at landfall. The german Icon model for 12Z is out and it shows a 989mb hurricane landfalling in Pascagoula, MS Monday night. Forward motion starts falling apart Sunday night based on that one.”
    Flhurricane.com
     
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  2. Panhandler

    Panhandler Well-Known Member

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    Oct 27, 2015
    I'm afraid to mention anything about of fucast for the weekend as the last two times jinxed it, but man do I hope it stays on that model and keeps us to the right of it. Could have LB'd it this morning but the shore was already crowded early. There was a good size water spout about a mile out, and all the families watching in wonderment as it got bigger, luckily in spun off. Kind of funny watching the lifeguards trying to tell people they might have to leave their perfect spot right after they set up and seeing the reactions
     
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  3. Barry Cuda

    Barry Cuda Guest

    Useless until it is in the Atlantic.
     
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  4. JayD

    JayD Well-Known Member

    Feb 6, 2012
    looks like it wants to zig NW vs NE then zag NE and dump rain on the whole SE with no surf!!! hope that is not the case...
     
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  5. LongIslandBro

    LongIslandBro Well-Known Member

    319
    Jul 21, 2017
    like tits on a bull.
     
  6. Barry Cuda

    Barry Cuda Guest

    Exactomundo!!
     
  7. Betty

    Betty Well-Known Member

    Oct 14, 2012
  8. headhigh

    headhigh Well-Known Member

    Jul 17, 2009
    Betty, I have been updating my office based on your posts and now they all think i'm some kind of super forecaster. I hope you don't mind me taking credit for your hard work. :)
     
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  9. BassMon2

    BassMon2 Well-Known Member

    Jan 27, 2015
    Yeeeeeew we're started already. Just hope i don't got to deal with flight delays when I'm in new orleans this weekend till wednesdays. I'm ok with being stranded there however
     
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  10. Barry Cuda

    Barry Cuda Guest

    What?? Huh??? You need to pay Betty royalties on her copyrighted material!!!
     
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  11. Betty

    Betty Well-Known Member

    Oct 14, 2012
    NHC 4 pm:

    DISCUSSION AND OUTLOOK
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    At 400 PM CDT (2100 UTC), the center of Subtropical Storm Alberto
    was located near latitude 19.4 North, longitude 86.3 West. The storm
    is moving toward the east near 2 mph (4 km/h). A slow and erratic
    motion toward the north is expected tonight. From Saturday
    afternoon into Sunday, a general northward motion at a faster
    forward speed is expected, followed by a turn toward the northwest
    on Monday.

    Maximum sustained winds are near 40 mph (65 km/h) with higher gusts.
    Gradual strengthening is forecast during the next 48 hours, with
    little change in strength forecast on Monday.

    Winds of 40 mph extend outward up to 140 miles (220 km) from the
    center.

    The estimated minimum central pressure is 1005 mb (29.68 inches)
    based on recent data from an Air Force Reserve reconnaissance
    aircraft.
     
  12. JayD

    JayD Well-Known Member

    Feb 6, 2012
    There is that turn to the NW...
     
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  13. Betty

    Betty Well-Known Member

    Oct 14, 2012
    4 a.m. NHC update:



    The subtropical storm has now turned north-northeastward at an
    estimated speed of 6 kt. This general motion with a increase in
    forward speed is expected throughout the day today, taking the
    center of Alberto through the Yucatan Channel.

    A turn to the northwest is forecast on Sunday as the storm rotates around a
    developing mid- to upper-level low in the central Gulf of Mexico.

    Alberto is predicted to be very near the northern Gulf Coast in
    about 72 hours, and should then turn northward and northeastward
    when it moves inland over the eastern U.S. The models are in
    fairly good agreement this cycle, but they have trended a bit faster
    from previous runs. The NHC track forecast has been adjusted
    accordingly, and lies fairly close to the latest consensus aids.

    Only slow strengthening is expected today due to the broad nature
    of the system and continued influences of westerly shear and dry
    air.

    There is an opportunity for more significant strengthening
    tonight and Sunday when the shear is expected to lessen and
    Alberto moves into a region of upper-level diffluence while it
    remains over warm SSTs.

    The models also suggest that Alberto will
    likely make a transition to a tropical storm in about 36 hours, and
    that is reflected in the official forecast below. The official
    intensity forecast is fairly similar to the previous one, and is in
    line with the IVCN and HCCA consensus models.

    The HMON model is now the only intensity guidance that makes
    Alberto a hurricane before it reaches the coast. Although a
    hurricane watch could still be required for a portion of the Gulf
    Coast later today, the recent intensity guidance trends suggest
    that this possibility is decreasing.
     
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  14. Barry Cuda

    Barry Cuda Guest

    Good morning Betty!!
    I hope you have a nice weekend with your loved ones, including waves, porpoises, fish, and maybe, just maybe, other surfers in your group!!
    It is flat up here this Saturday morning. But I don't really care--I have a great family!
     
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  15. StuckontheGulf

    StuckontheGulf Well-Known Member

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    Apr 23, 2012
  16. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    Get some!
     
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  17. Betty

    Betty Well-Known Member

    Oct 14, 2012
    From Flhurricane.com


    GFS has a strong TS or cat 1 hurricane going over Pensacola Monday night. The trend east is mostly brought on by the center being a bit difficult to get organized. It may shift east again, and is probably why the TS watches went up for Tampa. I wouldn't be surprised to see the big bend get them later today also.

    The concensus model is actually closer to Fort Walton Beach, the globals are based on dubious center data, so the exact track is probably a bit off. The bad weather being mostly on the east side is what will cause crazy amounts of rain (already started in S. Florida, it'll creep up to central Florida tonight). Then rain all day Sunday. Points east of the landfall will get the worst of it. Points west will likely barely even know its there. It'll likely start getting really organized about midday tomorrow. “
     
  18. Betty

    Betty Well-Known Member

    Oct 14, 2012
    Latest from flhurricane.com:


    “The latest recon report with 997 is off the Northwest Tip of cuba, it also suggests Alberto is beinging to transition into a fully tropical storm. “
     
  19. Betty

    Betty Well-Known Member

    Oct 14, 2012
    400 PM CDT Sat May 26 2018, NHC

    Before departing the storm, the Air Force Reserve Hurricane Hunter
    aircraft flew near the low-level cloud swirl that became apparent
    in visible satellite imagery over the southeastern Gulf of
    Mexico late this morning.

    Data from the plane indicate that the
    center had reformed in that location and that the pressure had
    fallen to 999 mb. The aircraft did not sample the area to the east
    of the new center, but based on recent satellite classifications and
    surface observations the initial intensity remains 35 kt for this
    advisory.

    The primary mechanism for intensification appears to be a shortwave
    trough moving southeastward into the larger negatively tilted trough
    over the eastern Gulf, which should cause a cutoff low to form
    during the next 24 hours. This is expected to result in deepening
    of Alberto while it moves generally northward over the Gulf of
    Mexico on Sunday and Sunday night.

    The shear is forecast to
    decrease as Alberto become co-located with the upper-level low and
    the system could transition to a more tropical cyclone-like
    structure before landfall.

    The NHC intensity forecast once again
    calls for steady strengthening through 36 h, but shows little
    strengthening after that time due to the possibility of dry air
    intrusion.

    The system has moved generally northward during the past 24 hours,
    however, the reformation of the center today makes the initial
    motion estimate more uncertain than normal.

    Alberto should move
    northward to north-northeastward tonight, and then turn
    north-northwestward and decelerate on Sunday and Sunday night as
    it moves around the eastern side of the trough/cutoff low. The
    dynamical models remain in good agreement on this scenario but
    have shifted eastward once again. The interpolated guidance models
    lie a bit west of the model fields due to the more northwestward
    1800 UTC initial position of Alberto. As a result, the NHC track is
    along the eastern edge of the guidance envelope as a compromise
    between the ECMWF/GFS model fields and trackers.

    The new NHC track forecast has required the issuance of a
    Tropical Storm Warning for a portion of the west coast of Florida
    and a Tropical Storm Warning for a portion of the northern Gulf
    Coast.


    KEY MESSAGES:

    1. Regardless of its exact track and intensity, Alberto is expected
    to produce heavy rainfall and flash flooding over western Cuba,
    southern Florida and the Florida Keys. Rainfall and flooding
    potential will increase across the central U.S. Gulf Coast region
    and over much of the southeastern United States beginning Sunday
    and will continue into next week.

    2. Tropical-storm-force winds and hazardous storm surge are
    possible along portions of the central and eastern U.S. Gulf Coast
    beginning on Sunday, including areas well east of the track of
    Alberto's center. Residents in the warning and watch areas are
    encouraged not to focus on the details of the forecast track of
    Alberto and should follow any guidance given by their local
    government officials.

    3. Dangerous surf and rip current conditions will likely spread
    northward along the eastern and northern Gulf Coast through Monday.
     
  20. StuckontheGulf

    StuckontheGulf Well-Known Member

    524
    Apr 23, 2012
    Unwaxing my board. Typical gulf skunk
     
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