We have kids as a possibility but no luck so far and time is limited so that may or may not happen for us. You’re right though.
Yeah he’s a total douche canoe. I will figure something out though. And who knows, I may outlast him like I have his predecessors. This month and next month will be good indicators of what is coming next.
There's been a lot of good advise. Personally, I moved from the flattest part of Fl to the 3rd flattest part of the state. I didn't even have a job lined up, but we had sold our old house and had already bought the one here. As a chef, similar I believe to sales, can find work just about anywhere, especially if you have a resume that shows longevity. We moved here because my wife is from here, her whole family is in the area, and she quit her career when we had kids and followed me everywhere during the crucial time of growth in my career, so she wanted our next move to be close to family. I lucked out and landed a sweet job knowing there was planned growth for me. Now I get paid a hefty salary to do what I enjoy, cooking. Well, now I don't cook as much because I run a large operation with many employees. There's immense pressure for financial and quality performance that hinges on line level staff and their attitudes and moods for the day. If fuggin blows sometimes and can be stressful to the point of hating it. But its also a ton of fun at the same time to orchestrate all of the moving pieces. I often have similar thoughts about changing/doing my own thing, especially when I take trips to the EC to surf and I think about how green the grass is surf wise. But now my wife is much happier, I have a job that I for the most part really enjoy. I get to take off whenever swell does come this way and my boss actually supports it and tells me to leave. I can afford to take time off for trips and as the boys get older, and hopefully keep getting more into surfing, I will be able to take trips with them and not scrape by. Its this balance that makes all the BS with it. Not sure if this helps, and like others have said, really weight the balance that creates your happiness, not just work/life balance. As far as your douche canoe boss goes, I've always applied this rule of thumb. If you need them more then they need you, you have no power to negotiate/retain your job. Double down and prove your value with your work, you'll likely outlast him anyway. Sorry for the dissertation, Good luck man
I just asked because Father Stone suggested kissing asses like they were covered in said chewy salty treats and you demurrred for Our Pal DP... Anything tastes better wrapped in bacon hahahahaha And I enjoy telling my peaceful, tolerant Muslim friends that all the time...
Family, i.e., supporting your family, comes first. I never developed a passion for my job nor was particularly "career" oriented, but it provided me a lifestyle and the flexibility to do the relatively simple things I wanted to do and accomplish. It also allowed me time off to assist in the care for our special needs daughter, all her surgeries over the years, and later to care for my aging parents. Because of our daughter's needs, my wife did not return to work. Altogether, we had four children. At times, I was very fed up and even disgusted with my job, bureaucratic policies, and management in general, but I hung in there over the years and was able to laterally change to other jobs several times within the organization. Work even paid to move my family and me from Ventura, CA to VA Beach in 1997 for a new position. I also took advantage of the opportunity work provided to completely pay for my MBA degree. I would first look within your organization/company for other options or opportunities before leaving it altogether. But after 4 years Navy active duty plus over 34 years civil service working for the Navy, I will be retiring at the end of this year. Enough is enough.
Telling a man he needs to "kiss asses" is not always motivational in these circumstances. Again, proper communication is key.
Thanks Dosxx, always good insight from you. Sometimes I wish I had followed through with my plan to join the Airforce when I was 18. I changed my mind at the last minute. I will consider your advise along with everybody else’s so far. I have been given lots to think about.
I didn't read through everything here, but you mentioned you are in inside sales - how about finding a gig in field/outside sales? Any technical expertise? I've been in the field for 8 years now - 7 were MidAtlantic Region, this past has been national. I'm sure there are better things out there, but for me, this is a perfect fit. I make my schedule, I see places I've never been, and I get to surf/mtn bike/explore a ton of different spots that would've required a vacation from a typical office job. Don't get me wrong, Detriot in March (well anytime) isn't my favorite trip to make, but heading to socal every quarter is worth it. If you have knowledge in your current industry, it shouldn't be to difficult to find something in the field if the job exists within your particular business (most do without people realizing it). And with the amount you post on here, it seems like you have the personality to cold call, knock some doors down, etc. Because of the independence, It does require some discipline What industry are you in?
You do have a sweet gig that a lot of people would kill for and surfing does make us happy, but at the same time, you need life balance. As happy as one thing makes us, other things can bring ya down and be heavier. One thing to remember, the waves will always be there and if not, the Kelly Slater wave pool will be! HA HA HA Get with the wifey and lay your options out on the table. IF you have to give up your morning and evening sesh almost everyday, then so be it. I am sure you will get it back in the future. either way, good luck brother!
Thanks for the suggestion. I have some outside sales experience in the past. It's not my preference but I am capable of selling anything whether it's inside or outside, it doesn't matter. I've been selling since I was 18 years old, going on 38 years old now, so 20 years essentially. I feel I could learn just about any product or service and sell it. I currently am in the online education and training industry, selling online training and certification software to professionals.
Thanks Z! Wifey wants me to leave the company and start over somewhere else because she use to work there and she knows how much stress I have gone through with them, not being appreciated, being just a # and all that BS that comes with being on a shitty sales team with shitty leaders. I have been convincing myself and others that it's been worth it because I get to surf when I want for the most part. I believe that at times, and other times I question myself and ask if it really is worth it. Some days the answer is yes, others it's no, right now it's feeling like it's not, but a good month could change that feeling for a little bit lol
Was your wife in sales, as well, or was she employed within another department of the company; if yes to the latter, which one?
No she wasn't in sales, but has done sales before, just not with this company. She was in more of a support role.
So then she possesses insight from another aspect of the company, at some point in time, which can be beneficial. Is there something that makes you believe opportunity fails to exist within another department? Possibly your sales background and time with the company could be put to use elsewhere, providing you with a change of pace, which could then alleviate the boredom.
Yeah, she has insight from her department and some others she dabbled in. She wouldn't want me to do what she use to do, and I wouldn't either, it's basically similar to my role but no selling and all client support and no commission checks, making it not worth doing that. Other departments may be a possibility but being remote limits my possibilities as most roles they feel should be in house. I honestly believe I can do anything for this company and be the best at it whether I'm in the office or at home. I wish I had the money to buy the company and make into the company it's truly capable of being, it has great potential but morons keep screwing that up, but I haven't hit it big yet so that will have to wait. My concern with asking to be moved to another position is that it will let them know that I no longer want to do what I'm doing and if there isn't a position they feel I can do from home then the next step would be out the door because they will then know I'm not sold out to the department anymore. This guy isn't like my last boss that would have entertained it, this guy has a Napoleon complex.
There are different types of management styles. Seems like your issue is more with your boss than the company, itself. As for purchase, there is always the option of investors.