Gets real here now

Discussion in 'All Discussions' started by MrBigglesworth, Sep 15, 2018.

  1. MrBigglesworth

    MrBigglesworth Well-Known Member

    Jun 29, 2018
    1A9248B0-9606-4548-AC7A-773C6D10C6DC.png Finally happened. Dam awful
     
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  2. MrBigglesworth

    MrBigglesworth Well-Known Member

    Jun 29, 2018
    You’d need to severely deplete the food supply In order to change their behavior and location. They follow food, and as long as their is fresh seal juice on every tide, they will breed, grow and come.
    But the seals are so cute.. who cares about a human being. “It’s their ocean”

    So the next time some azzhole granola gets killed by a bear we should tell their next of kin that they deserved it I guess.
     
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  3. your pier

    your pier Well-Known Member

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  4. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    I don’t like the idea of culling the sharks or the seals. How about relocating the seals to other parts of the world to spread them out? Too unrealistic?
     
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  5. your pier

    your pier Well-Known Member

    Dec 2, 2013
    do you like taxes?
     
  6. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    How do you mean?
     
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  7. your pier

    your pier Well-Known Member

    Dec 2, 2013
    I would guess that relocation of a species would cost a lot more than culling of a species. just like it's easier to take out a squirrel fuggin with your bird feeder than it is to have some dude come in and trap it and then go let it loose on a gulf course 15 miles away.

    for moving mass quantities of seals - in taxachussetts there's one easy way to pay for that.

    btw - humanely, I don't disagree with you.
     
  8. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    I see your point. I guess sometimes doing the right thing has a higher financial burden than doing simply what is expedient at the time. That said, it doesn’t necessarily have to be paid for solely with tax payer dollars.

    Maybe a portion can be paid via taxation, but the rest maybe could be paid for by donations and organizational contributions. Maybe create a foundation where people can donate to the cause. Shoot, look at the countless silly GoFundme accounts that exist. One could be made for something actually useful and it would benefit not only the countless people who frequent those beaches, but also would benefit the wild life by not simply killing them in mass quantities.

    I just don’t think culling is the right thing to do. I would however be OK with taking the GW’s off the endangered species list and allow non-commercial fisherman to catch them, maybe regulate how many they are allowed to bag per season like they do with alligators and other game.
     
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  9. capecodcdog

    capecodcdog Well-Known Member

    Jun 22, 2012
    If it were realistic, perhaps using fish baited retired troop carriers, Greenland would be a fine new home.

    As YP said, I'd be for a humane way to deal with them. Plausibility and cost are unknown right now.
     
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  10. BassMon2

    BassMon2 Well-Known Member

    Jan 27, 2015
    Dude that was a solid solid solid point about the gofundme thing. The guy from blink 182 raised millions for alien research type thing. His own company. Im impressed with that idea. Good thinking
     
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  11. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    Thanks brother, just trying to think outside the box.
     
  12. MrBigglesworth

    MrBigglesworth Well-Known Member

    Jun 29, 2018
    See? Different viewpoints and some decent ideas pop up from a bunch of crazy surfers... and no one got paid for it.
    I’d push the Gofundme thing because there’s a MESS of money in people’s hands that love these types of causes - and it would be better than the alternative.

    And NotaSeal makes a great point: they follow movement and scent and heartbeat/vibrations and if it fits the bill, they take a bite. Nothing personal or mean about it. But there lies the rub: they aren’t hunting deep water ambush style anymore, their in 3-5’ of water 30’ offshore hitting most anything they can, especially since late season instinct is kicking in and it’s fatten up time.
    And that close to shore area has always been people’s area. Til the seals made it theirs and the sharks followed.
     
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  13. Mitchell

    Mitchell Well-Known Member

    Jan 5, 2009
    Maybe they don't know and don't care?...i mean sharks are found with things like rubber car tires, license plates, and video cameras in their bellies. Not sure they have a very discriminative palate, or memory for that matter.
     
  14. NNYNJ

    NNYNJ Well-Known Member

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    Dec 22, 2017
    Now we're getting somewhere... Just like the Afgan army we should arm and train them.
    Maybe if we put IEDs on all seals so that every time a shark hits one it explodes. We'd trim the shark population, but we can blame the seals. And the sharks will eventually move out
     
  15. MrBigglesworth

    MrBigglesworth Well-Known Member

    Jun 29, 2018
    Paint the seals with zebra stripes?
     
  16. cepriano

    cepriano Well-Known Member

    Apr 20, 2012
    shark attacks are still pretty rare and fatalities are really low.culling the sharks on the northeast,i don't think that's a good idea.a place like reunion island where u get bit 3 minutes into the ocean yea,kill off the bulls.but great whites are majestic creatures lol.its just an unfortunate situation,nothing we can really do aboot it.

    I don't even know where this attack took place but im guessin cape cod,and probably a great white.they always been around,and im guessing population was a lot higher back in the 70s and 80s.only difference is theres more people in the water.i just think about someone like Kelly slater,hes probably got more water time in than all of us combined lol,and he never got bit,along with the millions of other surfers
     
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  17. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    Yeah, and Mick Fanning kicked a GW’s ass!!!
     
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  18. MrBigglesworth

    MrBigglesworth Well-Known Member

    Jun 29, 2018
    CEP, in the 70’s and 80’s there were about a tenth of the seals there are now, and there hadnt been a siting in so long of mr grey that no one thought they came up near here... then in the 90’s and up the grey seal pop has gone from est. 5000 from block island to Beverly. Now they figure close
    To 50,000. Add in tuna and other species of food and it’s nature - go where the food is for survival.
    Just boggles the mind that no precautions were taken to prevent the obvious issue that we have. But I also whole heartedly agree that there are a lot more people in the water lately.
     
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  19. MrBigglesworth

    MrBigglesworth Well-Known Member

    Jun 29, 2018
    Hahahah! Bruh’ I needed that laugh! I’m getting butt hurt over bullpucky and that made me better
     
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  20. Yankkee

    Yankkee Well-Known Member

    Nov 8, 2017
    This may come off as ignorant, in which case it wouldn't be the first time & in which you guys will launch, but I just gotta say that Hunter S. Thompson's quote nails it for me, "When you enter the ocean you're no longer at the top of the food chain."

    It seems that some people want to make the ocean into a version of Disneyland. Every time (rare) there is an ocean creature mauling a human there is this massive hue & cry about 'OMG how could that be allowed to happen?!?!' The human reaction is nutso de facto, driven by emotion not by reality. The ocean is a wild place. It is there for a reason, and, sorry, that primary reason isn't human recreational activities.

    It's their home. They are integral to the eco system that one species, the human virus, is destroying at an exponential rate. We're out there farting around on boats, fibreglas toys, syrofoam toys, etc. What do you THINK is going to happen once in awhile?

    And I'm ok with bears & mountain lions taking out the occasional dumbass human. Again, we are the invaders. I do not agree with the thinking that says humans have the ordained right to go do anything anywhere. We've seen that lead to the planet's demise on a global scale.

    Anyone who has had to endure the sordid & grotesque pollutant behavior of the Pennsyltucky asshats at TPTSNBN every summer may just vote for culling or restricting humans. :D