Upgrade from 8’ foamy

Discussion in 'Surfboards and Surfboard Design' started by ckramer, Aug 5, 2019.

  1. ckramer

    ckramer New Member

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    Aug 5, 2019
    Hi- I’m looking for some advice on what to get for my next surfboard as I just broke my 8’ Greco soft top foam board.

    -I’m 140lbs
    -Not a beginner but not intermediate - I can ride down the line ok in medium and small surf (beach break and point), some turning but just started learning that. I Catch 40-50% of the waves I go for.
    -Go out about 1/week for the last year
    -primarily surf Venice south of the pier which is a beach break and often has lots of close outs - I do best on clean days with medium moving waves

    I’m looking for my next board as I’m progressing pretty well right now, but don’t want to go too small as it seems like it takes a long time to get the hang of smaller boards (a buddy about my level got a 6’8” modern high line and it took him weeks and weeks to even get up on it so that seems too advanced)
     
  2. antoine

    antoine Well-Known Member

    Mar 10, 2013
    Go to a 7 ft foamie
     
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  3. Peajay4060

    Peajay4060 Well-Known Member

    Nov 14, 2011
    Dude,
    Get a 9'0" longboard.
    Ride it in everything.
     
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  4. DosXX

    DosXX Well-Known Member

    Mar 2, 2013
    IMO, if you're just starting to do turns, you're still in the beginner category. As a replacement, I suggest getting an 8 ft mini mal or egg...poly or epoxy. You'll get opinions either way on the benefits and drawbacks of both materials. There should be plenty of used ones on the market.
    http://www.surfscience.com/topics/types-of-surfboard/funboard/the-mini-mal

    But going the longboard route is not a bad suggestion. Wave count is what you want right now.
     
  5. ckramer

    ckramer New Member

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    Aug 5, 2019
    Thanks for the input. A 9’ longboard seems pretty tough in Venice since the waves close out pretty quickly. I’ll start looking for a minimal or fun board around 8’ length. Would there be much difference between going slightly shorter like 7’6” or 7’2” minimal? I’d like to go for epoxy for weight.
     
  6. Mitchell

    Mitchell Well-Known Member

    Jan 5, 2009
    If you weigh 140 pounds, are already surfing regularly, and want to progress to shorter boards, then get a shorter board. BUT get something with some width. I'd be looking for a board in the 6'10' - 7'2" range but an egg shape or small funboard. If you are already doing fine on an 8'0" then nothing over 7'6" foot, and definitely nothing that is "high performance." Unless you're going up and cracking the lip and doing full cutbacks (you arent), then the weight differential of poly vs. epoxy is not a factor you should worry about.
     
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  7. antoine

    antoine Well-Known Member

    Mar 10, 2013
    ;)i still say 7 ft foam
     
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  8. antoine

    antoine Well-Known Member

    Mar 10, 2013
    don't listen to mitchell , he's kind of gray... just look at his avatar:D
     
  9. beachbreak

    beachbreak Well-Known Member

    Apr 7, 2008
    Get an actual surfboard. 6'10" single fin for small surf. Learn how to surf. And stop wasting time. There's waves to be ridden.
     
  10. waterbaby

    waterbaby Well-Known Member

    Oct 1, 2012
    Few even advanced surfers can turn on an 8 ft soft top. That, and the fact venice is a crappy surf spot, is going to exponentially slow your progression. You should drop down to a 7 ft soft top next (you'll get used to it) and don't even think about turns until you drop to a 6 ft soft top...and go to a better spot like el porto.
     
  11. Rob Gnarley

    Rob Gnarley Well-Known Member

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    Mar 27, 2012
    Any Board would be an upgrade from an 8' foamy haha.
     
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  12. Mitchell

    Mitchell Well-Known Member

    Jan 5, 2009
    No shit man...i paddled out last week on an 8' soft top last week in really fun waves just because a friend had one sitting on the beach. Brand new Almond "R-Series" board. A freaking $500 soft top! I couldn't believe how BAD it was. SO damn slow when I hopped to my feet and started down the line on a nice clean wave I almost fell forward over my front foot - it felt like the brakes were on.
     
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  13. Rob Gnarley

    Rob Gnarley Well-Known Member

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    Mar 27, 2012
    Sounds weak and overpriced. I am definitely against the soft top revolution
     
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  14. waterbaby

    waterbaby Well-Known Member

    Oct 1, 2012
    Yeah, but you can get used to them (the "stiff" ones w/ triple stringers, etc) and crank out some decent turns on the shorter models. Definitly not as forgiving as a hard board and hard bottom turns are particularly difficult ...you really have to in steep waves and be on your "A" game. I wish I could get back on my hardboards, but, after 3 years of this knee shit, doesn't look like that's ever going to happen.
     
  15. ckramer

    ckramer New Member

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    Aug 5, 2019
    Thanks guys. Update: I got a used 51 liter 6’6” chili pretty sweet which has been pretty decent as it’s not hard to stand up on and I just need to get a little better at my timing. I’ve caught a bunch of waves but it does require more timing ability than my old board. Also I need to figure out how to get up on the rail as I nose dive this thing a bit too much. Thanks for all the advice
     
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  16. 1vin

    1vin Well-Known Member

    140
    Aug 24, 2009
    thanks for the ride report.Iwas thinking about that board but my I kinda knew it would ride like a pig.
     
  17. DaMook

    DaMook Well-Known Member

    868
    Dec 30, 2009
    Obviously the performance curve on a softtop is not supposed to be like a HP board. The problem w almond's version and other companies is that it tries too hard to be a HP and therefore become overpriced. I don't work for Catch Surf, but I own a few of their boards and absolutely love the 8' log. 1ft days become ridable with the amount of volume packed into it. Any questions on the possibilities of what a softtop can do can easily be remedied by watching JOB ride one at pipe. And...ugh this thread is like 7 months old nvmd
     
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  18. kyle4beantown

    kyle4beantown New Member

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    Oct 31, 2021
    I've been surfing for about 6 months and began w/ an 8 ft log (after renting/borrowing/etc) and really love it. As you say -- it catches everything and I've even become pretty adept at turning on it -- given the way they make it. While I'd still rate myself a beginner, I've picked it up pretty quick given I've been snowboarding for most of my life. The only issue I have with the east coast swell on bigger days is it's nearly impossible to get the log past the break with the volume it has. Any suggestions for a second or secondary board for bigger days as you kind of enter the beginner / intermediate category?
     
  19. antoine

    antoine Well-Known Member

    Mar 10, 2013
    Try harder or quit. It's also shark season .
    Surf season starts June 1 to September 30.
    Always surf near a lifeguard.