what do you make of this?

Why would cops be giving out citations for surfing in strong swells? That's the most ridiculous thing I ever heard of. Anyway, it doesn't seem like anywhere south of montauk could handle any real long period big swell anyway. No points or reefs or gently sloping beaches. It's all heavy hollow close out beach break. Am I wrong? I remember being in central and northern jersey years ago as a kid and the beaches are so steep that the waves crash right on the sand. Totally unrideable crap.

 

There are a few spots in Cape May that could handle a Long Period swell. It just depends on if there is alot of sand there or not

 

There two major spots in Northern NJ that can handle it (not like everyone doesn't know what these are at this point.) that can handle long period juice.

 

I think you mean't upper central NJ....Northern NJ has no ocean.

 

This tropical wave (93L I believe is it's official name) has had a 40% chance of developing within the next 48 hours for about two days now. It's a pretty small tropical wave, let's hope it's well developed, but I'm not too sure about that.

 

in short, yes. you are very wrong.

 

Bertha, Cristobal, Hanna, Bill... I've surfed these Canes and big Trop Storms at a beach in OC, totally open to South Swell and an East facing beach with jetties in MC, and both beaches (beach breaks) held these swells just fine for anywhere from half the storm to the entire storm. I'll take that.

 

So you surf triple to 4 times overhead at a real hollow beach break?(ie real big long period swell) Good luck with that!! haha Anything over 8 feet or over 12 seconds is not workable at a HEAVY hollow beach break unless it's a VERY gradual slope with the perfect sandbar setup or the beach doesn't directly face the swell direction and it's refracting, but jersey seems to be wide open. How would you even paddle out in it? You'd be half dead before you made out to the lineup. Not exactly fun. There's no paddling channels with the peaks everywhere at a beach break and crazy strong currents. Totally out of control and dangerous. Thus, The geography of New Jersey/north of Hatteras sucks. It doesn't have a north/south orientation. You can't catch any sw swell in the summer. There's no big coves with good sandbars. Everything faces east. They dump sand and ruin all the breaks and make them super steep so the waves break right on the sand. The only place worse I can think of is the great lakes. Of course there might be 2 spots or so that work descent like Johnson said. I don't live near jersey so I don't know it really really well. Piss poor for over 200 miles of coastline. I just find it strange people in the mid Atlantic praying for hurricane swells. Better off with a 5 foot fun wind swell. You don't need a long period swell to make anything hollow/powerful anyway. The only time it would be descent is the beginning and end of the swell I guess. Not the peak of the swell

 

mike, you're obviously not from nj.

if you had any memory (LAST SUMMER), you'd remember a certain 'cane sent some insane surf to most of nj, with certain pros flying in (AI) to surf it.

..and the spot held it just fine

 

I'm not from NJ.

From Hurricane bill Mansquan spot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fR44bl_GKBY
1 to 2 feet overhead on average at best(again less than 8 feet). It actually looks like great spot. It's the way I like it. Not too heavy Malibu type wave.(at least in this video) Looks like a solid wind swell. A lot of fun, but it's not huge or anything like the points north in new england. I'm wondering what the buoys were doing when that video was shot. Certainly not the height of the swell I'd say. Have you seen some of the footage from some of the points.. Now that's a place that can handle a real big hurricane swell.(Not that I'd go out there in 20 foot waves) Oh and I prefer the less powerful/hollow closeout waves than those nj/obx long island hollow bombs. I like my waves mushy(rideable) and fun! Not scary.

 

Right...Maybe not

 

of course you wouldn't. you may rip your leash.


mikeb2056:

I have one of those cheap leashes that came with my bodyboard. Every time I let my board go and duck under the water to avoid a wave(rather than duckdiving) the leash snaps! So of course I have to turtle or duckdive to avoid breaking the leash. I bought 3 leashes last year and they snapped twice before I decided I simply wasn't going to let go of my board. Anyway, just wondering. If I get one of those coiled more expensive leashes will it not snap every session if I let the board go in 5 foot waves?

 

haha. I got my new coil leash now! You should have finished the thread!

 

yes, i have seen footage of ruggles on a good swell (way to name spots, btw...kook!). it looks heavy, but fun, too. i can't wait to get up there this fall, now that my step-brother is living on the coast in RI. hopefully i'll catch a decent swell.

but way to talk up $#it you aren't even interested in riding...wtf was the point?? you bad mouth nj beachbreaks, which you'be obviously never surfed & clearly don't understand, only to go on to say that even if faced w/ a solid 15-20ft wave, you wouldn't go & that you prefer small, mushy waves. & there's nothing wrong w/ that...different people like different waves. but don't talk up what you want no part of.
beachbreaks are way, waaayyy more challenging to surf than points or rock reefs...they require you to pay attention to your surroundings at all times, or you'll be mowed down by a random sneaker set breaking in what used to be a rip. i've traveled fairly extensively & have found that my experiences as a grom surfing nearly maxed-out nj beachbreaks prepared me very thoroughly for just about anything i encountered, from pitching, heaving panamanian death slabs to fun, playful, costa rican rock reefs. the only place that scared me was b****'s, b/c it is waaayyy heavier than any beachbreak i'd encountered. but a couple pummelings & i came to love it.

so, in short, you're still wrong. & a kook. travel & experience that which you speak ill about before showing yourself to be an ill-informed idiot again.

 

ooooh...wow what a big man you are njsurfer. Let me buy you a pack of gum and show you how to chew it kid'! Oh yes I'm spot naming because blah is such a SECRET!! haha lmao. Everyone and their brother knows about it. Now you sound like an ignorant kook idiot.

I'm bored and waiting for waves biatch! Basically my point remains the same nj beach breaks can't handle huge hurricane swells the way the points farther north can...quite simple. How is that wrong? Yes it's more challenging to surf a beach break than a point on average assuming there around the same size. No argument there. I think you've swallowed a little too much raw sewage surfing in that disease infested toxic waste you call the jersey shore. Nothing worse than getting caught inside and being dragged under and rubbed up against all those dirty needles on the ocean floor! There's your challenge right there njbiatch!

 

Since you know nothing about N.J. leave it alone. Glad to know that someone like you wont be out at many of the great breaks we have in Jersey. We have every right to get excited about any swell that comes our way just like the surfers of the Great Lakes do.

 

Thats never happened to me.

 

Your absolutely right. Dude the guy called me an idiot and a kook. I never called him a name. He started a personal attack for no reason just because he didn't like what I had to say about his home break and you don't need to know a ton of local knowledge to know that jersey doesn't have point/reef breaks and geography that takes advantage of large long period hurricane swells....jeez.It's good to know that there are at least 2 spots than can handle moderately big swell though for you jersey surfers according to some of the responses.

 

don't compare us to the great lakes surfers ha