Predictions on Crowds in the Water

So your wishing death on another person because you dislike him?(and you quite frankly have never even met me) This says more about your character than it does about me. Now it's 9 pages

 

All I've been trying to say. Not just with this thread, but another one too. Kind of a common sense statement.

 

Hmmm Who did I make a personal attack against in this thread?(a personal attack is not simply disagreeing with someone) Actually the moderator Matt Johnson agreed and said I didn't attack anyone. Oh and how did I contradict myself here? I think my statement was quite clear. Ride your horse back to Utah!

 

Great spots wll always regulate themselves. As for point breaks vs. beach breaks, if you rip beach breaks you will destroy point breaks and surf reef breaks 10X's better than beachbreaks. I can only talk from my own experience. Great race horses need great race tracks. Anybody remember who quoted that in the magazine? I've got 3 young daughters who know the difference between beach break & point surf. Sorry Mike, I'm not buying 1/2 of what you are posting here in this thread!!!!!

 

Oh yeah, because when the beach break surfers from the mid atlantic come to pipeline(a SUPER HEAVY reef break), they just rip it up and make the locals look like amateurs. So pipeline is the training ground to get ready for rockaway beach? lmao. Of course mushy rock reefs breaks are easier to surf than some heavy beach breaks assuming the same size since the drop is easier. It depends on the spot. Some beach breaks are mushy. It depends on the spot and what type of swell is in the water. Something called a continental shelf out east I like mushy and not too hollow. Depends on the person and their preference. Thankfully, there is something for everyone. Many surfers like a hollow heavy wave and reef breaks are the true testing ground. I can't believe I'm having this conversation. If you like heavy breaks....all the better to you! If you like mushy breaks....great! Whatever is fun. This ego thing from many of the people on this forum is quite frankly pathetic. Heavy Reef breaks in the pacific, like teaapoo are the ultimate challenge, not beach breaks in the jersey. HAHAHA Wow. This is actually funny that someone is trying to argue against something so obvious. You could also say waimea bay shorebreak, sandy beach or the wedge(a west coast beach break) is a surfing challenge. Wave quality sucks, but Nothing harder to surf than 20 foot shorepound that completely destroy's you with every impossible wave closing out smashing you into the sand I'll give you that. I guess the more "difficult" with you guy's the more ego boost you get and that's why you surf. To build your ego. Quite a strange reason to surf. I ride wave's for fun, but whatever floats your boat.(or surfboard..lol)

 

dude is an internet troll who has learned everything he knows about the water and surfing from the world wide web. Go read his posts and questions in the bobyboarding threads as well as his countless pages of posting elsewhere below and you all will quickly dismiss anything that comes out his fingers.

http://www.google.com/search?q=mike...-us&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&startIndex=&startPage=1

 

Wow I post on the web. So do all of you! Your ON A MESSAGE BOARD ON THE INTERNET. Oh and I'm sure not EVERY post is mine on google. This is www. There's billions of people and someone else has probably used the same handle.

 

Yeah. I suspected that a few days ago. Sits in his mom's basement and reads up on 'boogieboarding. then comes on here to try to fit in.

 

Yeah, I'm really trying to "fit in" lmao....People that try to fit in go with the crowd, not argue against it. I just call it like I see it. Another brilliant post pumpmaster. Keep em coming!

 

don't forget about dog's off of their leashes...LMAO

 

This kid reminds me of snail, Franks stepdaughter, on "It's Always Sunny". He's putting up a stonewall, and just keeps saying the same thing over and over.

Just for the record mikeb, we get it. You like mushy waves in late august on the east coast. It's okay. I'm not going to make fun of you or say that you aren't hardcore to inflate my ego. I know that stuff is true, but I won't say it because I don't want you to think I'm using you as a foot pump for my ego.

Now that we have accepted you mikeb, it's time for you to accept us. You just made a long winded post where you claim to be okay with what other people want to do, but you are constantly abrasive to people when they defend their beliefs which differ from yours. Most bodyboarders like steep hollow gnarly barrels.

Now I'm not going to get too scientific on you, because I could, but one thing to keep in mind is beach face angle. In the winter, the Atlantic is much more stormy than it is in the summer. This has an effect on the coastline. As the winter storms batter the coast, the beach face angle becomes steeper. This allows more wave energy to move closer to shore without touching the bottom. In the summer, you have long shallow sandbars as sand is deposited throughout the (typically) calmer months. When the waves interact with these bars, they will slowly start to crumble, creating a mushy wave. When a wave travels through deep water and then slams into a bar abruptly, you end up with a steep barrel. Obviously this should be common sense, but if it was you wouldn't have so much disrespect and hate towards winter surfers.

Winter surfing is not about impressing other people either. That's a really ignorant (in the classical sense) point of view, and it's disrespectful to spout it off at people who regularly winter surf. I doubt you would be so unfriendly in person, because chances are most of the winter surfers around here are down to earth, real people. These aren't internet handles you are slandering, these are real people who love to surf. Where's the comradery at? Why are you so interested in creating divisions?

 

While it might seem trivial dog's are dangerous animals. Just ask this 8 year old girl, she asked an owner if it was ok to pet the akita and she said fine. Luckily the dog was attached to a wall by leash otherwise you could have been looking at a fatality. Moral of the story don't pet strange dogs and dogs need to be on leashes--->

 

she's gonna grow up to have a pretty rad scar that will attract all the cool dudes.

 

I don't like winter surfing because I don't like the cold. Case closed. I've said repeatably that if you find surfing in winter conditions fun, go for it! I have nothing against it. I do have something against people saying their not "core" because I don't go out in winter and having a big ego about it. Anyway, this will be my last post on dogs: It says everything that needs to be said. http://www.dogbitelaw.com/PAGES/danger.htm

 

Why would I HATE winter surfers? Maybe I don't communicate that well or people are too sensitive. As far as this sand depositing stuff. This has an effect obviously, but It has more to do with the swell that's the reason you have bigger waves in winter. I know lots of breaks that break super hollow all year round and one's that breaks that are mushy all year round. There constantly in a state of flux like you said assuming a sand break. A lot of times you have steep drop offs in the middle of summer. Extremely strong nor'easter coming up the coast is why you bigger waves in winter than in summer when the jetstream is farther north. Other than hurricane's, it's basically fronts and prevailing south westerlies that come through that give swell in the summer months.

 

Glad you finally came around. You were at one point claiming that the east coast gets minimal waves in the winter compared to the warmer months, and that because of that winter surfers were all ego warriors with only one goal in mind, impressing others.

It is true that with no wetsuit, you aren't going to be surfing most of the year here unless you are south of the obx. And not only that, but if you don't like steep heavy walls, you probably will miss out of the best of the best surf. Like this past Friday and Saturday.

So, again, you are just failing to see the big picture. If you don't have a wetsuit in the mid atlantic, then truthfully you aren't a 'hardcore' surfer, no matter how you wanna slice it.

I'm not trying to be insulting, you are just refusing to accept that we have a max of 4 or 5 months where you can go in the water bare, and most of the time we get nil waves during that time. This summer has been a bit of an exception, but let's be honest, the first really gnarly **** we have seen since may was last week. And may is a wetsuit month.

 

Again you are simply disregarding the facts. I didn't make up the beach face angle argument, geographers did, and I, having done a bit of studying on the subject, tend to agree with them.

 

I repeat what I'm saying because no one seems to listen to what I'm saying. Somehow I hate winter surfers? What the hell? Stuff like that. Putting words in my mouth

 

I said shifting sand plays a role, BUT THE NUMBER ONE REASON THAT WAVES ARE STRONGER IN WINTER THAN SUMMER IS NOR'EASTERS AND JETSTREAM THAT HAS GONE FARTHER SOUTH CREATING A MORE ACTIVE WEATHER PATTERN, NOT SAND SHIFTING. Look at the buoys next time an extremely strong storm bombs off of cape cod. That's why the waves are big.You've got VERY strong winds not that far offshore therefore creating very consistent big sets and very difficult paddle out's