Whatcha Gonna Do When They Come For You

that is a grey area. There are multiple lineups, and in order to be a part of one, you ahve to lineup next to the people, so they guys with bigger boards will always be in position, and unless you can go that far out with a shortboard, they WILL AND CAN paddle past you in the lineup because you are "Inside" with regards to their position... Longboarders do the same thing. And i can't get too mad at them, cause the right spot for their take off is a long further out... So when I really get pissed about it, I run back home, grab the long board, paddle out and get the inside position, thus getting waves in front of them all day. You can only fight fire with fire... Cause to be a part of the lineup, you have to be in position. So you cant ask an SUP guy to sit on the inside where you are lining up... That is not their lineup... but out of respect, they should give you some... I would talk to the guy... Just say look man, if you are going to take off on every way, its only a matter of time before you collide with us. How about after you ride into the inside, you let us go and we share... jsut be civil. you are both right.

 

Yeah, like I said, its a di** move for sure... So, he should be a lot cooler about it.

 

"with great power comes great responsibility." ~ spiderman


the issue w/ SUPs, in my mind, is not the fact that they can take off further out (as zach already stated, that's their line up), but the fact that they can move so quickly from one peak to another. in nj, w/ it's peaky beachbreaks, it's very easy for them to move around. even the most aggressive longboarder can't move around the same way a guy on a SUP can.
to my mind, this ability gives them the RESPONSIBILITY to be more considerate of others when sharing the line up w/ non-SUP surfers. they have to be able to empathize w/ regular surfers & think about how they would feel if the situation were reversed. just b/c your toy allows you to catch waves sooner than another's doesn't give you the right to take all the waves.

 

thanks for the shout out yankee. The stud tells it how it is, nothing personal.

SUP... I still blame Laird

occasionally a ripper will pick one up, but in general: they are kooks. I say we corner them in the showers and tell them "its our break you yuppie scum... wait, that would be a waist of time, we are just going to f$ck you up..... (insert red hot chili peppers)

Either that or we go down to the chrystal coast where its "gnartastic" every day and like 10-15 feet. ANyone else been following those user submitted reports...?

 

lee only Damook uses the 3rd person around here.

SUPs look like a lot of fun, but more times than not, they are being navigated by guys who can't paddle-popup-and surf. They don't know the rules or the ethics of the water.

I have discussed this with other surfers in my town that we should storm the town council meetings and propose that the SUPs have to use the kayak beaches, especially during the summer. However, the SUP epidemic has not reached a pandemic proportion just yet.

The argument would be simple-maritime rules. Any vessel propelled by a paddle x amount of feet long needs to be registered and have numbers on both sides of it. Right? It would never happen, but the moment a kid comes screaming out of the water and needs 20 stitches to close up his head would be the turning point.

 

Most of the SUP riders where I surf are very good long and short boarders who been in the line up for a long time without the paddle. These guys are cool and pose no problems. The problem I see is the guy's who turned to SUPs because the couldn't surf. They got no clue and are a danger to everyone - true Kooks. Most of the time they know the suck and stay out of the way. When they become a danger or start snaking everyone you got to set them straight - if not - they will park their a$$ 20 yards out and live there.

 

laughed at your use of the word 'trolling', because that's what they're doing. you're waiting around on a day w/ long, drawn out sets and one finally comes your way. you paddle for position and you're set up perfect, then boom, this ****ing boat w/ this old troll at the helm is coming at your face and you have to pull off.

i swear they just feel entitled to every bump that comes through just because they can take it. some of them are ok, and take those outside waves that may not bowl up for the shortboarder to take, which i have no problem with. it's when they feel obliged to take every wave that comes through just makes you want to flip out.

coast guard even classifies them as vessels.i think that says something right there

 

It's really quite easy-

Dora rules apply.

 

A wave hog is a wave hog, no matter the craft. Nobody likes somebody who takes every set wave simply because they can. That's just bad manners, pure and simple... greedy, selfish behavior. We should all be showing some restraint when it comes to who has the advantage in the lineup. When a guy like that on a SUP does something like that, assume they don't know any better, and say something. What' they're doing is the same as somebody paddling up along the inside and taking off underneath you. It might not seem like the same thing, but it is... taking priority away from the guy who rightfully has priority. He deserves to take his share, but he shouldn't be picking off the best wave of every set. If you say something, and it continues, it's time to tell him that if he keeps doing what he's doing, he's going to start getting dropped in on. If it comes to that, be prepared for a confrontation.

 

SUP is not surfing. It is stand up kayaking.

 

haha thats awesome

 

I hate the f-ing things! May as well just add a trolling motor, fish finder and couple of rods and reels.

Learn to surf like the rest of us or set on the beach and eat cheetos.

 

seems like the one advantage of SUPeeing (i don't know, i don't do it) would be that you could paddle AWAY from crowds and find your own peak. some SUPeers might rip but i think it's safe to say that most don't (in vb anyway). why those that don't would want to do it in a lineup full of guys that probably hate you (or at least don't want you around) is beyond me...maybe they're just clueless.

 

I have never had a major problem with SUP's until the past few days. The break i was surfing had an outer bar which was breaking much better than the inner bar. There were like 5 SUP's on the outer bar and they would take every good set that came. Since it was a long period swell they would take the entire set, paddle back out, and be there in time for the next set to come. When this one f**k ass Dbag SUPer couldn't catch the wave, he would yell at me "go,go,go". That sh*t really pissed me off. Also the only ones I would be able to take were the ones they couldn't catch and those waves ended up mushing out after the drop in. It's hard to talk sh*t to a 40-50 yr old because I really don't want to get into a situation where i have to beat an older guys ass. You would think they would have let the 10 or so short boarders catch a few of the really good waves that were out there, but no. I also don't feel like I should have to ask or become friendly with them just to have them let me catch waves. Head high +, glassy, and perfect long lefts out there and the only people I see riding them are SUP's b/c they are taking every wave and screwing everyone else. Really ticks me off.

 

never really had any issues with people on SUP. A cpl people that have them at one of the breaks I frequent also surf short and longboard so it dont even register as a issue. The only incident I had was some guy on a NSP SUP and he bailed and his paddle hit me so I took it and chuck it way out side and I said to him Paddle this ***** . He went out here got his paddle and off he went a bit farther down the beach

 

kite,paddle,skim,body,sponge(sorry,swellinfo)...
longboard unless it's totally flat or tiny mush...

get a surfboard and surf.

windsurfing has been cancelled.