Hey i got a BRAND NEW, never ridden ridden Lost Rocket for sale. It's 5'10" x 19.5 x 2.5. This is a great board only $525.
You gotta be a fool to spend $685 on a new board or loaded..good luck selling it, it is a gem (minus the paint job)
Expensive? $525 is a great price for a lost. A POS from china retails at around 480! Idk where you guys are getting your boards but today its hard to find a good board under 550, thats not from china.
Yeah I knew CI's were that much, but i didn't know these ones were too. Last time I bought a board it was 400 but that was like in 2001. Been shaping my own since. If that's the going rate, I'll never buy another.
If you shape your own boards then you also know that surfboards are severely under-priced for the amount of labor that goes into them. $400 is robbery for a new board. Materials alone cost $200 and that's for the cheap stuff that I wouldn't even want in my board. The irony is that CI's and ...Lost's fetch the highest prices, but they spend less time being touched by a shaper. Both use CNC machines, hand finishing, and light glassing schedules then charge $700 for a clear sanded finish board. A local shaper will shape the whole board by hand and glass for durability for $500... makes you think what you are actually paying for.
If you buy bulk there is no way material cost is $200 per board. I can shape a board and glass it in a two day period. That's me with crappy skills and using 90% hand tools. I can't even imagine how fast a pro could turn out a board, from blank to shaped blank like an hour? A pro glasser start to finish could do it in 2 hours + dry time. 3 - 5 hour max per board again other than dry time for a $300 profit. Your not gonna get rich that way but it's better than a lot of people do. I still think it is worth something to have a knowledgable skilled shaper make you a board and that skill is worth more than just the production cost mentioned above. I always thought the reason boards cost a lot is that boards are not purchased in a high volume to generate enough income. So If you want a skilled artisan to make your board you had better count on compensating him enough to keep him in business. Otherwise he will be forced to work like the Chinese and pump out mediocre shapes one after another and market them based on volume. BTW I always loved the Lost Rocket shape!
That is true, but 90% of all well known shapers are using the computers. Rusty, Matt Biolos, Al Merrick, Jason Stevenson, etc, all put in 1000's of handshapes, but computers are the way to go now, less labor means greater profit margins and they are in the business to make money. The computer allows them to tweak little things to make the boards better without having to start from square one all over again and when you are working with athletes this is a must have machine. A lot of the shapes that many of us like today were designed on the computer. As for local shapers they don't have anywhere near the demand that would justify a shaping machine. I myself shape boards and don't care either way if a board is handshaped or not, if i like the board and really want it then i will buy it computer or not, or how much work went into it.
You can easily build a board under 200 using the best blanks, 3 lengths of 6oz, and epoxy. If the CNC bit about CI and LOST is true, they should cost MUCH less.
6x20x2 3/8 hope it's not too much board, but looks awesome....hopefully will get it in the water tomorrow
That 200 you speak of is materials cost, 6'0" SB US Blank $60, 4oz Glass $21, Resin $40, FCS Production Set $30. So right there is $150 easy with no labor. So with labor say a board cost $250, they then sell it to a surf shop for 385 making only a hundred, then a shop sells it for $550. With Lost and CI you are paying for the name and the designs. So when you think about it they're not making a lot of money, in manufacturing you at least want to shoot for a 40% margin. Now a CNC machine can cost around $50,000 which is a high start up cost. Then you have overhead of all the employees and the cost of boards that dont sell that year. Trust me surfboard shapers by no means are rich in any sense. Rusty has money from the clothing, Merrick sold to Burton, and all the other guys are just trying to keep it going.
I think he knew that but was trying to put it into perspective to a shaper that actually sells his boards. How much would getting a custom from you cost?
Why does the picture of the board appear to be in a surf shop (hats w/ tags and sunglass case adjacent). Are you a worker/owner or something trying to peddle your stuff on here...or did you steal it out the back door or something.
Is there a problem if it was from a surf shop? Seems like this dude is just trying to give out some deals. May not be whiskeymilitia but sure as hell seems like this dude is just trying to help people save some money, such a prick right? haha Man i wish whiskeymilitia sold lost board so that way i could support a company that doesnt support surfing what so ever!
I do work at a surf shop and i ordered this board for myself only to find out how big it is. I didn't know posting this up was going to be this much work so just consider it sold then.