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    It's about time the moderators get a hold on this place. I was getting
    Sick if Yankee and carter acting like god damn clown trolls and posting unrelenting hate. Finally some justice to be dealt back to the problem members of this community.


    Just look you even drove poor Wayne off the deep end and into a forum regression.. No on deserves to be exiled like that.. Well actually maybe Wayne does..
    Yankee, carter, although you are my bullies and my mom says not to talk to bullies, you two are pretty solid trolls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippy View Post
    I can respond to this from my own point of view. First off I don't think I ever read a post of yours that I found obnoxious or hate filled. And I was never offended by some of the banned members or their posts. I did stop visiting after a while because I lost interest in 90% of the posts. I would come on to see the report and glance at the forum box and see the top ten posts were junk, like polls and various rants etc. Not especially offensive but nothing I felt compelled to reply to. There is a difference between a flurry of activity spurred on by negative energy as people feel compelled to return to defend themselves and normal sustainable discourse. I personally hated seeing some of those long winded rambling replies by a few members, they seemed a poor attempt at proving the posters offbeat brilliance than anything real or substantive. Again I never found any of it offensive, more like a boring sermon preaching to an ever dwindling audience.
    Well said Zip ............. finally a post worth reading .................

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippy View Post
    I can respond to this from my own point of view. First off I don't think I ever read a post of yours that I found obnoxious or hate filled. And I was never offended by some of the banned members or their posts. I did stop visiting after a while because I lost interest in 90% of the posts. I would come on to see the report and glance at the forum box and see the top ten posts were junk, like polls and various rants etc. Not especially offensive but nothing I felt compelled to reply to. There is a difference between a flurry of activity spurred on by negative energy as people feel compelled to return to defend themselves and normal sustainable discourse. I personally hated seeing some of those long winded rambling replies by a few members, they seemed a poor attempt at proving the posters offbeat brilliance than anything real or substantive. Again I never found any of it offensive, more like a boring sermon preaching to an ever dwindling audience.
    While I understand your statement it does not answer the question of how less clicks (regardless of what casues them) will impact the revenue stream to SI and therfore it's future. There are many here who even though they don't participate in the arguing read the posts and therfore once they are on the site banner ads are rolling and so is the $.

    At the end of the day the almighty $ rules all.

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    Good point Rcarter, but with all the hazing I would assume the knowledge base of SI is less valuable so of cource the moderators wanna keep it valuable to make those advertisers happy

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    Oh yeah, sorry I didn't address that. I would imagine the need for civil discourse outweighs the $$. I know I have ways within my own business to make more money and I often take the easier less troublesome path and accept less revenue for the piece of mind. For me money doesn't always rule my decisions, and maybe it doesn't for the forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charles Taylor View Post
    Good point Rcarter, but with all the hazing I would assume the knowledge base of SI is less valuable so of cource the moderators wanna keep it valuable to make those advertisers happy
    Valid point but typically the advertisers look at hit stats and views more than anything. The ads are not blanket as I'm sure you know so Guitar Center does not care so much if it advertises to me in a thread filled with hate, it just wants me to buy stuff.

    What I'm saying is the following folks have left or been banned since Saturday morning:

    Sandblasters
    Seldom Seen
    PJB
    Wayne (not that I'm crying over that one but still a loss)
    ZGaffer
    Pimpintraining

    I am probably missing some but you get the picture, these were not haters like Yankee and me, they were not posting porn or hardcore vulgarity, they were just having some fun and now we have lost them and their posts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippy View Post
    Oh yeah, sorry I didn't address that. I would imagine the need for civil discourse outweighs the $$. I know I have ways within my own business to make more money and I often take the easier less troublesome path and accept less revenue for the piece of mind. For me money doesn't always rule my decisions, and maybe it doesn't for the forum.
    Micah has stated before that the forum makes money via adverstising. My guitar forum (which is way bigger than SI, we have over 20,000 members) has a button you can click to donate and support the forum then the ads are turned off for you. I do not see that option here and that is why I asked Micah how it works.

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    retracR just you so you know... online advertisers are not stupid. yes they go to appropriate sites but they don't just blindly throw their clients money around. they do read forums and if its a junk site (like all those banned were turning this place into) they will skip it.
    This cleaning of house was the absolute best thing to happen to this place.

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    I would much rather read so called boring threads punctuated by an occasional off topic post than one based on nonsense where an occasional real thread sneaks in. It was getting like diarrhea of the mouth, watered down nonsense without much substance. That said I wasn't complaining, I just wasn't coming on anymore. I figured its fine if that's what it's becoming just not for me. Also it's not difficult to become a top member if all the other potential posters refrain from posting. Ten people being banned will open the board to 50 people being willing to participate without more than a passing fear of being bashed. A little bashing = tough love a lot is just abuse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippy View Post
    I would much rather read so called boring threads punctuated by an occasional off topic post than one based on nonsense where an occasional real thread sneaks in. It was getting like diarrhea of the mouth, watered down nonsense without much substance. That said I wasn't complaining, I just wasn't coming on anymore. I figured its fine if that's what it's becoming just not for me. Also it's not difficult to become a top member if all the other potential posters refrain from posting. Ten people being banned will open the board to 50 people being willing to participate without more than a passing fear of being bashed. A little bashing = tough love a lot is just abuse.
    See I guess that is where I differ from a lot of you, I think if a person has fear of posting on an internet froum becasue some one is going to be mean to them, then they must be scared as hell to leave their house each morning let alone get in the ocean! They are just words, you can ingonre them, they can not jump off the screen and slap you in the face. You can ignore members like I did Tunerfish and Charles and Roy at one point or not respond and the "hater" is not going to keep typing stuff for too long.

    Like a few others said if this is what it takes to keep SI running then I am for that so I can check the forecast but seeing 1000 new threads on fin choice, wetsuit colors, and all the other topics we have in the archives is just boring.