Thanks guys, and lumpy I was just asking b/c I know the one day I checked it was backwashing and screwing with the wave I had a buddy that was smacked by a lip and broke his collar bone bc it was bumped up right as it was breaking bc of the backwash. I was out back in early may down there it was a great morning head high and clean. You are right tho this spring and summer has been awful hopefully some pick up this fall. Thanks apbb as well maybe Ill take a ride to those beaches too.