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Jun 18, 2014, 07:43 PM #121
Jun 18, 2014, 07:52 PM #122
I fear we are diving too far into a realm that no one wants to enter. You are going to see some really strong opinions in regards to this. Just understand, I don't call religion a philosophy out of disrespect. In fact, I think if more people used it in this way, the world would be a better place.
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Jun 18, 2014, 08:07 PM #123
Jun 18, 2014, 08:18 PM #124
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No to be Joe the Plumber over here again guys, but have you noticed that our currency says "In God We Trust". Take your wallet out, pull out a $1, I know y'all at least got that in your pocket. Look at it. Remember that. And remember the hypocrisy that a lot our our country lives in. Our national songs mention religion, our currency has it. What we consider "America/European" culture was ALL based and founded on these beliefs... I am not saying that kids have to pray in school if they don't want to. Not saying they even have to say the "PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE" for gawds sake.... But as "far" as we have come as a nation, with tolerance, acceptance and freedom to do and think pretty much whatever you want, you BEST NOT forget your past and where we came from, and everything that the men before us believed. Not saying you gotta believe it. Not saying that I do. I am just saying, with all the BS I have seen in my brief times on this earth and everything that is so PC and unacceptable, one thing that I think needs to be left alone is the church in our country. So what if it's in the curriculum. Teach them both. Explain that these are the two "theories" or whatever, but you must tolerate both....
I know that there are plenty of other religions that have populations in our country, as well as a HUGE portion of atheists... But be careful of the other side of strong beliefs, cause I am pretty sure OWNING, USING or even HOLDING the American $1.00 bill is probably against every other religion on earth. You dont "Believe" in these things, but you live on this soil. You live in this nation. You work for this dollar. You live with this dollar. You feed your family with this dollar. So you had better respect this dollar and where it came from and where it has been, otherwise, move to China.
Just my thoughts, but you would have to remove most of our nations culture to "rid" it of religion. We would then have no past and no future. Just one big, politically correct cesspool.
Jun 18, 2014, 08:25 PM #125
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That is what religion is supposed to be all about. About making yourself, your family and this world the best that it can be. Religion was supposed to govern people. To give them faith, hope and piece of mind. It was twisted and manipulated by men to build their churches, to build their wealth and they changed the message from being a better person, to having to be a lifelong recruiting agent for the "cause" or the church. On they wanted the authority to govern people, not god. So, religion was high jacked by power, wealth-hungry men, like a SI thread by shark hunter. It was never meant to be this way. In it's proper application, it was supposed to keep us all from killing, raping and pillaging each other.... And instead, every religion in the world at some point or another has manipulated it into the exact opposite. The reason we should kill, instead the reason we should not....
It's a shame. All humanity ever wanted was hope. Without hope, what is there?
Jun 18, 2014, 10:29 PM #126
the first article you presented uses a study from the Weston A price foundation that promotes a high animal fat diet. they call butter a superfood. hmm
the second article is by Denise Minger, who coincidentally is affiliated with the Price foundation., has been found to have many flaws in her critique of the china study..
denise minger is a 23 yr old English major with no medical degree, no certification in physiology, biochemistry, or nutrition. not qualified in math or statistics, no experience with actual patients, and is not licensed to practice medicine, or to dispense human nutritional or medical advice to the public.
compared to the author of the china study dr. colin t campell
Jun 18, 2014, 10:42 PM #127
Jun 18, 2014, 10:50 PM #128
Honestly, I have automatic doubts when anyone skips the peer review process. Instead, he writes a book and sells it as good scientific research. Of course, the vegans buy up anything that promotes their lifestyle.
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Jun 18, 2014, 11:06 PM #129
Jun 19, 2014, 01:08 AM #130
its true that you can become sick on a vegan diet if it is not balanced but I sure see a lot of sick non vegs too.
40% of americans are b12 deficient. I don't think 40% of the u.s. is veg, therefore its not only a veg issue.
daily requirements of zinc are easy with proper vegan nutrition
his claims of too high carb to low protein and poor protein can be argued extensively.
a lot of his claims are false as certain examples of the book have been taken out of context.
he also sites studies from the price foundation. (butter is a superfood?)
his approach to nutrition is questionable. he seems to go by Chinese philosophy in his approach and by his statements go against ayurvedic practices.
there are many professional vegan athletes with good blood results and very high energy/endurance.
I myself eat a high carb low fat low protein diet. my blood tests are normal and show no deficiencies.
I do occasionally supplement but not often.
so I have to disagree with his argument