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  1. #11
    Day laborers, while very visible, make up a very, very small percentage of the overall illegal immigrant population in NJ and the US as a whole.

    While most of the day laborers are paid in cash, the overwhelming majority of illegal workers use bogus social security numbers and thus, do have taxes and all other withholdings taken out of their checks.

    I think the estimate is somewhere north of $2 billion a year paid into social security by people with mismatched (ie, not matching the name) social security numbers. It's money they'll never collect, for the most part and it helps prop up the wobbly SS system. It's part of the reason they refuse to turn over their data to immigration authorities. The whole system is completely broken, insane and crazy.

    Here's another good link on the taxes/ss issue

  2. #12
    Quote Originally Posted by ragdolling View Post
    Here's a story I wrote about 7 years ago that pretty much explains a lot of it. Hope it helps.
    Thanks, that answered my question. It's a shame. My wife got hit by another car full of Mexicans a few years back. She started to call the police on her cell and they told her not to call them. The damage was bad. They tried saying that it was not much damage and took her cell phone. I wasn't with her at the time but she got the cell phone back and called the police. All of them ran away from the scene. It's scary that this happens when they fatally kill someone in an accident too as in the article. These people know they broke they law when they crossed the border. Now, they are driving cars illegally with stolen plates and killing people. This is pretty bad.

  3. #13
    Car Insurance is cheaper and easier to attain in MD. As an insurance agent we have many illegals come down from NJ to try to get insurance. They use someone's address in MD to start a policy and then register their car in maryland. Next we get all this returned mail a month later because they don't live at that address. God forbid you need to get ahold of them because the phone numbers usually don't work either. We now try to ask a lot of questions about their residence and make them bring in a utility bill if we suspect them to be illegal or live out of state.

  4. #14
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    Oct 2007
    Green Room
    An excerpt from the article:

    "Immigrants, meanwhile, said they are living in fear, caught between the need to get to their jobs and the laws that keep them from driving legally."

    What about the laws that are supposed to keep them out of this country?

    And how is that woman not breaking the law? If I drove the car that someone used to commit a crime I would be breaking the law wouldn't I?

  5. #15
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    Nov 2009
    Quote Originally Posted by Scobeyville View Post

    -im not racist, i believe we are all equals, but if im getting taxed on every dollar i earn, why arent they?
    They do pay taxes. And they don't even get anything back at the end of the year.

  6. #16
    Quote Originally Posted by grande gallo View Post
    They do pay taxes. And they don't even get anything back at the end of the year.
    Please reference the facts you are using to support these statements. And yes, I do know some pay taxes and probably some don't get anything back, but you made a blanket statement here.

  7. #17
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    Sep 2009
    Norfolk, VA
    Quote Originally Posted by grande gallo View Post
    They do pay taxes. And they don't even get anything back at the end of the year.
    Since this thread has derailed, I'll add a link to a brief that takes almost 10 minutes to watch. In it, the impact of illegal immigration on the population is addressed, as well as the relief it provides the rest of the world. At 2:45, he starts to discuss the impact on tax-paid services, such as schools and programs. At 4:32, he begins to discuss the relative amount of people we can "help" by letting them into America. At 7:40, he really drives home the inevitable future our country will face using the current immigration policy. These numbers are facts and indisputable.
    Last edited by Ray F.; Jul 30, 2010 at 07:48 PM.

  8. 5th columnists

    The whole issue is ridiculous and beyond the pale. Some of these illegal workers are using FAKE SSNs to get jobs and pay taxes. Wow, that's stupid and and criminal. Now I'm supposed to feel sorry for them not getting their retirement benefits? Try this crap in Mexico and see what happens. I hear they only recently stopped open-ended jailing of illegal immigrants transiting through their country from Central America. Arizona tries to handle the issue and our government sues them. Wtf?

    It is wrong to have this whole "shadow society" of illegals living amongst law abiding citizens. If our country needs labor, then we should allow more immigrants. Companies that hire illegals should be prosecuted the same way companies that hire Americans "off the books" are. If Mexicans want so badly to live and work here, then they should immigrate to the U.S. via proper channels. I'm all for it. File the papers, take the test, learn the language, get a real SSN, and assimilate. Be an American. Or stay home.

  9. #19
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    Jul 2010
    Salisbury/Ocean city, Md
    dude i notice this too!!! they all have tags from somewhere wierd.. like carolina.. or missippi or something random... IM ON TO THEM!!!

  10. #20
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    Oct 2009
    Monmouth County
    I used to work on Throckmorton street in the Boro a few years ago, thats when the day laborer thing started getting big. The news vans were out there........You tell me that all of those guys are legal citizens. Also, it's great when you go to Squan inlet to catch an early morning sesh, and when you leave at 8 a.m......there are dozens of "hispanics" just chilling in front of Acme. Way to make the town look scrappy........I also have a "hispanic" girl with a mazda mini van that lives by me.........shes clearly lived here for more than 3 months, but still has Maryland tags................come on now.............

    Wah wah about "they" are hard workers, because I've dealt with them before........the laziness has settled in now.

    You wanna live in this country, follow the steps to become legal, and learn the language.
    I'm sick of everydown town feeling like a foreign country.......