A closeout is a closeout, waist high or overhead. They suck at any size. That said, the period isn't that long, especially for Thurs. Combine that with a pretty small swell size, and I think there will be some spots working, but you may have to pick and choose your waves wisely, and perhaps deal with some crowding. The lack of guards sure makes it easier, and should spread the herd some.
15 Second period at anything under 6-8ft and i'm stoked, lots of places for that kinda stuff, at 3-4ft nearly everywhere handles that, c'mon we aren't talking Hurricane Bill or something
There's a difference between a wave that is too fast to make, and a wave that walls up across the beach, and the whole thing dumps at once. Both get referred to as closouts, but The former can be amusing, whereas the latter, not so much.
Holy schitt. I, too, just looked up "BelMar artificial reef". There's 15 of them statewide?! Why the eff don't they do this at more places instead of just planning on replenishing with sand later?
Well, not that I would every doubt anyone in the fine SI tribe, but yall ninjas were right. 15 seconds is a bit much. It was workable and had a ton of power, but it was super racy even at the high tide. It was like 2.4 @ 15.... And "Racy" and "Hollow" are not typically words in the local vernacular used to describe waves here, so if that is what it was like for us, I am sure the guys with less of a shelf are going to have a few shore pounders out there for sure. Went into many on the inside, but was unable to make it out... It wasn't a "closeout" or whatever you guys call it. Just barrels that were moving a little faster than I was.
Anyone who thinks there's no such thing as a closeout needs to check out the beachbreaks around here when it's 13 or 14 seconds.
Gonna have to take a 10 foot swell @ 20 seconds to make the Sandy Hook one even crumble a little, if not just peak. That's my guess.
well my spots were closed out today.... still went and had fun. didn't have the flex to make the drive to better spots for the swell...
I only figured this out this year. The more powerful ground swells, with long period, also stretch across the break farther. What I mean is, they aren't just bigger top to bottom (crest to trough), and not just farther apart (crest to crest) - they are also longer from side to side. And unless they are hitting the shore at a significant angle, close out is the only place it can go. Weird to think that shorter period / wind swell can sometimes result in more shoulder and better rides, at least at a beach break. But as somebody said, on a point, longer period would usually be better quality.
I surfed a swell rated 2 feet at 22 seconds in CR -- and it was WAY overhead by the time it got to the beach. Great stuff.
spicoli, those are fishing reefs, not for surfing or to dissipate wave energy pretty soon the whole coast will be revetments, it will be like Deal NJ everywhere! (except more poor) if 15 seconds sux at a beachbreak, imagine a sea wall!
yea those reefs have absolutely nothing to do with waves.i live 2 minutes from the hook and had no idea they had a reef lol. regardless u don't want to surf the hook,its like the deal of nomoco.only good thing is theres like 9 different beaches and most of the surfers stick to the one spot and have no idea what lurks deeper.i know the island like the back of my hand from the trails to the little low tide islands in the bay.its best in the winter,its like having your own country because theres nobody in sight and u got the whole place to yourself.one of my favorite beaches
this past winter I met up with a buddy I havnt seen in a while at the hook,he told me to follow him and he took off(its a long azz road).he took off,i hit 95mph before I gave up.try that shyt in the summertime and u will go to jail lol,and please nobody attempt to speed there,u might fly into the bay
The replenishment left me with lingering depression after my last few sessions, I went east today, I had to. Thanks to the J-train and a malfunctioning ticket machine, I spent a total of nearly 5 hours in transit- and missed the glassy morning, but it was worth it. Better shape, less closeouts, better lineups. No excuses Fitz! Rockaway closeouts s*ck my d*ck!
It's all relative bro. I've surfed 23s out your way back in January to March. Interesting stuff for sure. The short to medium to long period scale is definitely different from EC to WC. We are talking about 15s being "super long period" for the EC and it basically is. It's on the shorter end of "long period" out west I would think though. 9s-11s is "medium period" here right? Not sure if you'd call that so medium on the WC.
