4WD vs AWD

Discussion in 'All Discussions' started by Scbe, Apr 15, 2015.

  1. Braap

    Braap Well-Known Member

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    Dec 1, 2014
    Surf j dog. I came across that problem this year on EI with my van. The woman at town hall said I couldn't drive on the beach with it because its a 2 wheel drive. So I walked her out and showed her that the motovan had 33 nitto mud grapplers and an american flag and she quickly agreed I could get around on sand just fine.

    I have found with my east coast beach driving experience that a two wheel drive works just fine if you drive with some sense and let a few psi out of the tires
     
  2. Braap

    Braap Well-Known Member

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    Dec 1, 2014
    Mr brother in law has a 2010 escape limited and he drives on the beach quite frequently to go fishing and do hoodrat stuff with his friends. It works better than some trucks because of the short wheel base
     

  3. worsey

    worsey Well-Known Member

    Oct 13, 2013
    saving (cetacean) whales is good.
    tree hugging is good.
    we don't "hate"companies; just some of their DUBIOUS BEHAVIOR.
    avoiding piping plovers is good.

    we now return you to your regularly scheduled values.
     
  4. Towelie

    Towelie Well-Known Member

    Nov 27, 2014
    NY req are 4x4 a must, and where I live - beach access is only for fishermen. Meaning to get a permit you need to bring and show your at least 7' pole, hi-jack, shovel, air pressure gauge, and a dedicated 4x4.
    If you're on the beach and 5-0 rolls through - at least 50% of people in your party must be actively fishing.
    I'm not making this up.
    Other than that - you're good!
     
  5. Braap

    Braap Well-Known Member

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    Dec 1, 2014
    Dude. That's pretty hardcore
     
  6. Towelie

    Towelie Well-Known Member

    Nov 27, 2014
    So are the citations...

    Oh and you're not allowed to have a propane tank on the beach in case you wanted to grill something real quick. Not sure about camp fires... Pretty sure that's illegal also..
     
  7. Towelie

    Towelie Well-Known Member

    Nov 27, 2014
    That being said:
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  8. Brick Man

    Brick Man Member

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    Oct 16, 2014
    No matter what wheel drive it is, having stock tires with only 8 inches of clearance, as soon as you spin your tires ur gonna get framed out and stock tires won't pull you outa that even with 4wd.
     
  9. nynj

    nynj Well-Known Member

    Jul 27, 2012
    Where do you live? Because they changed it last year for the state beach pass. There is a "surf pass" now

    I have a Jeep Grand Cherokee which is AWD and never had an issue getting a permit.
     
  10. Brick Man

    Brick Man Member

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    Oct 16, 2014
    Damn their not ****in around... hope cops don't roll up at lunch time while everyone's standin around layin down some $5 footlongs an poundin down some fresca... "I swear officer, we were just fishing like 2 minutes ago!"
     
  11. sbx

    sbx Well-Known Member

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    Mar 21, 2010
    He might be talking about in the city?
     
  12. Towelie

    Towelie Well-Known Member

    Nov 27, 2014
    I was checking last fall for breezy point, and state parks in the likes of jones beach (don't know your locale, might be diff...)
    If they done changed it - I'm getting one. That would be sweet.
     
  13. brewengineer

    brewengineer Well-Known Member

    Jun 22, 2011
    The only way to lock 100% (meaning all 4 tires turning with equal power distribution), would be to have a full locking center diff, and something like posi-lock (or welded) front and rear diffs. It really is overkill, IMO. My subaru had a full locking center diff and LSD in front/rear diffs. About as good as it gets.
     
  14. wilmshark

    wilmshark Well-Known Member

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    Nov 16, 2013
    ^^ agreed. I'd be impressed to see a full locker setup on a factory vehicle
     
  15. sbx

    sbx Well-Known Member

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    Mar 21, 2010
    A 4x4 doesn't have a center differential, plenty of them have selectable rear lockers, aftermarket front lockers aren't that uncommon.
     
  16. sbx

    sbx Well-Known Member

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    Mar 21, 2010
    Also lol at people recommending a locked and lifted truck to a guy asking about a Forester.
     
  17. IceBoi

    IceBoi Active Member

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    Dec 9, 2014
    I went to school to be an auto tech, so this is something I have a little input on. Awd is essentially 2wd until wheel slip is detected ( one tire spins, power is cut to that tire, and applied to the others) true 4wd is always selectable with a few exceptions (Mercedes) and in 4wd, all tires have equal power. I would get an old Audi all road or something for an awd beach car, those had mechanical awd instead of electromechanical. Probably one of the best awd systems made. Other then that there is no way I'd buy an awd car for the beach.
     
  18. brewengineer

    brewengineer Well-Known Member

    Jun 22, 2011
    You are right, it is called a differential in most 4wd vehicles. Some full time 4WD vehicles do have manual locking center diffs though.
     
  19. brewengineer

    brewengineer Well-Known Member

    Jun 22, 2011
    Subarus (especially the WRX STI) are a bit different. The car uses a 40%F/60%R split for power during normal operation. Under slip conditions, or when you manually set the center diff to lock, power goes to true 50%F/50%R like a normal 4WD setup. Probably one of the strongest and most effective AWD setups put into a production vehicle.
    http://www.cars101.com/subaru/impreza/wrxsti2011.html
     
  20. kidrock

    kidrock Well-Known Member

    Aug 1, 2010
    what is a center differential? Are you guys talking about a transfer case?