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Discussion in 'All Discussions' started by seldom seen, Jul 13, 2015.

  1. bennysgohome

    bennysgohome Well-Known Member

    Nov 13, 2009
    Why should we let them come here illegally. How come other people do it the right way, legally.

    I have an idea. Anyone that supports illegals or a pathway to citizenship, can pick up the tab for them. Right now, their anchor babies give them several subsidies and they also get free healthcare and education. Once tehy are citizens, they can get subsidies on behalf of themselves. Let's have a general vote to round them all up or not. Every voter must put down his information and SSN. Present W2s. Then, the peole who vote to keep them, just have the subsidy deducted from their pay check.

    Also, if you let them fix your house or mow the lawn, you pay a fine along with their employer. Sound fair? Should be if you want them here? People who dont' want them here, shouldn't have to pay.
     
  2. bennysgohome

    bennysgohome Well-Known Member

    Nov 13, 2009
    Please list what was incorrect about his statement. Please disprove it. Wow, everyone is brainwashed to even speak out on the topic. I'm talking about the topic not about him. If it let's people have a discussion about the topic, that is a good thing.
     

  3. Riley Martin

    Riley Martin Well-Known Member

    Jan 13, 2015
    Barry, I'm growing tired of your, "Everybody but me is dumb.."

    You want to have a knowledge face-off? Anytime, smart guy.

    And don't be so anal. You know I didn't mean everybody drinks and drives. But a majority of people who have consumed alcohol have driven impaired. That's why the penalties aren't that severe. Lawyers D&D; cops, especially, D&D. Politicians D&D.....

    And no, paying money isn't a severe penalty.

    Barry, I'm so glad you are such a model citizen. But then again, New Hammy's boring as sh!t.

    And all of Trump's ex-wives were Eastern European illegals......I'll take the Latinos over Eastern Europe any day.

    And y'all with your links and articles. Just because some dude writes something in a magazine doesn't mean it's gospel.
     
  4. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
  5. rcarter

    rcarter Well-Known Member

    Jul 26, 2009
    So your not referring to crimes against people or property but rather crimes against federal laws? Oh I see that makes it okay then:rolleyes:. It may not make it bad (as this is a judgment call) but doing something illegal is wrong. Like I said if we start saying it is okay to break some laws that "we" do not agree with then where does it end? I say we go back to the ways of the samurai and if someone insults your honor then it is okay to behead them. How about bring back the rule of thumb so if your wife pisses you off you can beat her?
     
  6. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    Who's got the best hair in all the land?

    This Guy....

    TrumpHair.jpg
     
  7. brewengineer

    brewengineer Well-Known Member

    Jun 22, 2011
    He said Mexico was basically only sending criminals to the US. He said he guessed "some" were good people. This is clear exaggeration and shock speech. It is one thing if he said 50% of illegal immigrants are criminals. That is something that can be backed by data. I have no respect for someone who prefers exaggerating over just talking to the facts.
     
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  8. Riley Martin

    Riley Martin Well-Known Member

    Jan 13, 2015
    Where are you getting this pedophile thang? That's got to be some baseless propaganda.....

    And actually, in The City of Angeles, the home grown G's don't really like immigrants either. No, really. I'm serious. The American Cholo doesn't have much affinity for border crossers. Most gangsters in LA are home-born. Well, MS-13, may be an exception. Hey MIS-13 !!

    Most illegals get work, live in crowded houses and try to lay as low as possible.

    I never heard of this Illegal Rapist problem. You sound like some dude from Charlestown in 1900 complaining aboot cocaine-crazed negroes raping our precious white women.

    Ya see, this sh!t ain't new, Liam. Stop getting your facts from Fox News.

    Hey our country was colonized illegally.

    Liam, what are you....WASP, I-talian.......? What race/ethnicity you repping?
     
  9. brewengineer

    brewengineer Well-Known Member

    Jun 22, 2011
    I am already paying for them to be here, just like I am paying for all the dirty business practices and tax dodging by wealthy a55holes like trump. You must not have much experience in legal immigration. I work for a German company, and there are many legal immigrants here. It is very expensive, takes a long time, and is almost impossible to do without employer assistance or marriage. I don't think we should just let illegals cross the border. I think we need to fix the system to allow good skilled people with no criminal background to become citizens, work, and pay taxes.
     
  10. brewengineer

    brewengineer Well-Known Member

    Jun 22, 2011
  11. Barry Cuda

    Barry Cuda Guest

    A "con man"?? Perhaps.
    But then gain, is there any greater "con man" that the flaming idiot we have as president? Me thinks not, other than those that support him as he encourages illegals to continue to break the law, sends airlines to go pick them up, etc. No wonder some say they would break the laws to accomplish whatever they deem of importance. Land of opportunity should never be equated to land of the lawless.
     
  12. brewengineer

    brewengineer Well-Known Member

    Jun 22, 2011
    o barry
     
  13. Barry Cuda

    Barry Cuda Guest

    I will agree this is true, but only because there are greater number of those you list than those that you defend. Subject it to a percentage of their respective, and you might find yourself to be wrong. In other words, your statement is a generalization as so many others in sociology/politics that cannot be proven/disproven in any way. Given the mixing of populations DNA, who is truly black, truly mexican, truly white?? That alone skews any data you wish to provide.
     
  14. Riley Martin

    Riley Martin Well-Known Member

    Jan 13, 2015
    How is Obama a con-man, Barry? Be Pacific and detailed........

    Oh yeah, you are smarter than Obama, as well. It must be awesome hanging out in New Hammy, retired, trading stocks, and pretending you've been surfing lately. I'd guess it's been at least ten years since you've surfed.

    As far as illegals go, this president has deported more than any recent president. Hey, you can send them back but they'll return.

    What are you, Barry? A drunken Irish guy who was going to bring America to its knees in the late 1800's?

    Land of the lawless? We have more laws than any other first world nation. And we lock them up more than ANYONE.

    Ah, you guys yap at politicians and moan aboot complex issues like there is some easy solution. Wow, how did our leaders never think of this stuff before? maybe they'll need to tap the brains of this here surf predictin' website message board, where stars like Barry shine bright. Trading the stocks on the E-Trade site........
     
  15. Riley Martin

    Riley Martin Well-Known Member

    Jan 13, 2015
    Nahh, you can tell who is white. Anyways this wasn't aboot race, it was aboot legal status.

    So, there are far more white collar criminals than illegals? Barry you and Liam need to get your stories gelled together as you are fighting on the same side.

    Barry's huddled-down in friggin New Hampshire worrying aboot dudes crossing into Texas. Barry's never even seen a person of color before, besides those rough-arse Manchester neighborhoods.
     
  16. aka pumpmaster

    aka pumpmaster Well-Known Member

    Apr 30, 2008
    HUGE fine for any company or person hiring an illegal. I'm talking millions per employee. No jobs, no illegal immigration. At the same time allow for temporary visas so people can come and earn some money but aren't a drain on the system.
     
  17. Riley Martin

    Riley Martin Well-Known Member

    Jan 13, 2015
    And I bet you.....

    Trump has illegals working at his construction sites.

    And I've seen plenty of people working at his casinos who I would assume may have been illegal.... Pretty hard to be a real American if you don't speak a lick of English.
     
  18. Riley Martin

    Riley Martin Well-Known Member

    Jan 13, 2015
    Oh and y'all are angry at Mexicans.......

    Let's see, are the waging Jihad against us?

    Umm, what have our drug laws done to their country? And we're complaining?
     
  19. brewengineer

    brewengineer Well-Known Member

    Jun 22, 2011